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Actually the USA version that we will be building with Tyler's supervision will be pricey (3699 to 4499) but killer and we have a Korean version that a killer maker named World is building. They are real luthiers. Those guitars will be high quality but affordable. (1099 to 1299)

Awesome. :)

Because sometimes they drink their own koolaid and cannot think outside of their self-made box. Believe it or not Way Huge Jorge when he was working on the ToneCores pitched a similar product. Then I pitched another version and it was rejected and then finally we pitched it again and they said...

That kid is amazing!! It is so great to see young guys growing up learning to play and having X-factor. That is so cool.

I have heard some good stuff about the Blackouts. Good job on the clips. The first video when you are doing the lead stuff, I can hear that Lukather tone. Very nice.

See, and even hearing you lay out how you use them made me understand them more than I did before. That is all I am here to do with you guys and M13, just let you know why we did this or that. :)

You probably realize it is update-able via Monkey. Much easier than sysex. Midi was used because pro players, who this pedal is aimed at, need midi.

Hey guys, jumping into your thread a bit late so forgive me if you have covered some of the stuff I will cover. The street price for M13 is $499. It has been on sale. The street price for M9 is $399.

I don't seem to be saying it clear enough. :) Our DL4 delay modeler has been around unchanged for 10 years. So yes, it will still be around in 10 more. Even if we can no longer get the parts, it will be on pedalboards for many years to come. But, I know what you are saying. I love analog...

I personally felt no flaming from you at all. I totally understand what you are saying. I was just saying that not all digital gear is here today gone next year. DL4 and all the 4 button stomps have been around 10 years. The Echo Park, Verbzilla and some of the ToneCores have become go to pedals...

There are a lot of great videos of users using them on YouTube. We have a basic video on our website for the M9.

Very well said. I am totally tracking with you now. The one thing I would say about the M13/M9 though is that with 109 effects, that is a virtually endless number of combinations to create new crazy sounds. :) Check out this YouTube for fun...

Ok, this is now officially my favorite forum. You guys know about and post about Oz. He is a killer player. Yes, he uses M13. He has been messing with the M9. He has been using DL4s for years. Just saw him play at the Catalina bar and grill a couple weeks ago, amazing. :)

Well, first of all in the edge's main rig he runs a DM Pro. That is the DM4 rack mount version we did just for him and he runs a POD 2.0. He uses on his small board a DM4 and DL4. Plus he has many digital effects in his rack. He uses everything. I know what you are saying here but it is not...

I understand what you are saying. But...... 1. The M13 has, for instance, the DL4 models in it. The DL4 just celebrated its 10th year anniversary and is still the number one selling delay pedal. So next year we will not be coming out with a new model with a better DL4 in it. It is an industry...

2.01 fixes relative mode if you run your pedals from right to left. Relative mode rules so the update is worth it on M13 as well.

And what is awesome for you is the fact that you get to use Monkey to update. It works awesome. I hope we have that for M13 soon. It is in the queue for the next Monkey update.

Not everyone wants to update. I would say most people will buy it and just use it as is and have a blast, so we wouldn't charge $524 for all of them and make everyone pay for the extra cable. Plus there is one on amazon.com that sells for 8 bucks. Just google USB to Midi cable and get a deal. We...

What he said. You can put 12 tube drives in a scene if you want. So yes, you can do your few variations.

Rich Renken from Line 6 here Hey guys, Spudman invited me over here to your forum. I am here if you have any questions. No matter how strange. About M13 or M9.