Win 7 installation!

[Kazz]

Uh I thought Linus Torvalds invented Linux?

 

[red]

Gotta be happy about that. But no way I'm gonna try and muck around this stuff for a while now. I have better ideas to spend sundays than fighting Linus, LOL.

I'm sorry it wasn't easy to fix. I'd offer to help out more, but I can only guess so much without actual access to your particular computer, and you should never give root access to your computer to unknown people on Internet forums .

You should not need to reboot your machine just for X server configuration changes. Only X should be restarted.

If you want to troubleshoot more, you could modify the way your Ubuntu starts, and make it start in console-mode only (without a graphical interface). Somebody explained how it can be done here (link). Then, when your computer starts up, it won't try to start your X system automatically - you can then simply log in, and try to start X manually using the "startx" command. That way, you can work to tune your X settings easier.

You can also try to use the nvidia-xconfig utility like this:

$ nvidia-xconfig -s -c dummy_file -o xorg.conf

That will try to find dummy_file as being your current xorg.conf, will fail to find it, issue an error (don't worry about it), and then carry on to create a completely new configuration file with the nvidia driver in the file xorg.conf in your current directory. You can then edit the generated file to make sure the monitor frequencies and other settings sound sane, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and replace it with this one.

Hope this helps.

 

[red]

Uh I thought Linus Torvalds invented Linux?

Linus Torvalds did start the Linux project, but Linux is only the kernel. The kernel makes everything work (takes all the different devices from different vendors that a computer might consist of and provides a unified software interface for the system's applications, so that you can simply write programs that say "read 1 megabyte from that file" and not have to worry that a USB drive is different than a CDROM or hard drive). But the kernel is only one component of many that makes your system useful to you. You can't browse the Internet or read mail or listen to music with only the kernel.

The GNU project that Richard Stallman started began earlier than Linux, and Stallman and his collaborators already had editors (the famous Emacs), compilers (the GCC suite) and many other application, but lacked a kernel. They just used Linux as a kernel for practical reasons, thinking they would eventually write a better one and replace it (project GNU Hurd). But it just stuck, became popular, and eventually overtook the name of the whole project.

More details here (link).

 

[guitartango]

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more Vulnerabilities in the Linux Kernel than Windows 7.

 

[marnold]

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more Vulnerabilities in the Linux Kernel than Windows 7.

Where did you get the source code for Windows 7?

 

[guitartango]

Where did you get the source code for Windows 7?

Its a fact i am afraid. Look at all the security websites.

 

[red]

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more Vulnerabilities in the Linux Kernel than Windows 7.

Is that your professional opinion? :applause

 

[guitartango]

Is that your professional opinion? :applause

Yes it is and no ! I love Linux, been using RH since it it first appeared on a computer magazine. Installed every distro you can think of, Debian, RH, Slackware, Suse, Solaris, Open Solaris, BSD........ and so on. Given a choice between Apache and IIS then the penguin wins, given a choice between Corporate email and just Email then Exchange wins.
Want to process millions of email then Postfix, qmail and sendmail wins. Just because no one has attacked Linux yet doesn't mean its not secure. Surely as a Network Admin you know the dangers of cutting edge Kernels !!!!!!!.

Just a note: I manage both Windows 2008 and Slackware servers with a little BSD thrown in.

 

[red]

Installed every distro you can think of, Debian, RH, Slackware, Suse, Solaris, Open Solaris, BSD........ and so on.

1. I can think of many UNIX OSes, so don't bet on it;
2. simply installing many OSes does not prove particular competence, it just shows that one has a lot of free time. That's like saying someone who has owned all the guitar models in the world is a better guitarist than someone who only played a couple. Simply not how it works.

Just because no one has attacked Linux yet doesn't mean its not secure.

Plenty of people have attacked Linux, some with success. Any software system complex enough will have bugs and vulnerabilities, it's just that Linux being open source, billions of eyes read the source code, and bugs get found out earlier, and fixed earlier. Then they just get patched.

Surely as a Network Admin you know the dangers of cutting edge Kernels !!!!!!!.

Not sure that was a compliment, but I'm not a network administrator. I have however been writing C/C++ code professionally for over a decade, most of it for UNIX systems, but for Windows systems too. That's really not at all why I'm on this forum though.

We're really off-topic, and I can see nothing good coming out of this discussion. If you think the Windows 7 kernel is safer than Linux, be my guest and use it. If you think the discussion is worth having, try posting on a dedicated forum, methinks we're wasting forum database space on a dispute that's frankly neither important nor interesting.

And I suggest that if you do open a separate thread you actually point out a couple of "all those security sites" with independent research on the number and severity of Linux vs. Windows 7 kernel bugs.

 

[guitartango]

1. I can think of many UNIX OSes, so don't bet on it;
   
   So can I (what are you trying to say)
   
2. simply installing many OSes does not prove particular competence,
   
   Doesn't it. Spent years on the command line, set up many email servers and web servers
   
   

Plenty of people have attacked Linux, some with success. Any software system complex enough will have bugs and vulnerabilities, it's just that Linux being open source, billions of eyes read the source code, and bugs get found out earlier, and fixed earlier. Then they just get patched.

I have to agree with this one :applause


Not sure that was a compliment, but I'm not a network administrator. I have however been writing C/C++ code professionally for over a decade, most of it for UNIX systems, but for Windows systems too. That's really not at all why I'm on this forum though.

Didn't say you were a NA, but i have many many coders who know nothing about security as long as their code works.

We're really off-topic, and I can see nothing good coming out of this discussion. If you think the Windows 7 kernel is safer than Linux, be my guest and use it. If you think the discussion is worth having, try posting on a dedicated forum, methinks we're wasting forum database space on a dispute that's frankly neither important nor interesting.

What dispute..... typical Linux user only.... My OS is better than yours.

And I suggest that if you do open a separate thread you actually point out a couple of "all those security sites" with independent research on the number and severity of Linux vs. Windows 7 kernel bugs.

Windows suffered fewer security vulnerabilities than Linux last year, according to figures released by vulnerability tracker SecurityFocus.

Need i say more.. .....

 

[marnold]

Windows suffered fewer security vulnerabilities than Linux last year, according to figures released by vulnerability tracker SecurityFocus.

Need i say more.. .....

Give me a break. As soon as Microsoft releases their source code so that Security Focus or others can give a thorough look-over, I'll buy this argument as relevant. Security through obscurity is no security at all. Even beyond that, the big issue with vulnerabilities (and every OS has them) is a) severity and b) time between discovery and a patch that works.

I'm ending my participation in this thread right now because I feel like I'm being baited.

 

[guitartango]

Marnold

I agree with what you say and i am not on this forum to stir up any trouble or spend 100's of post's debating WINDOZE V THE PENGUIN.

Although my Fender Strat is better than a Gibson :what

 

[red]

Spent years on the command line, set up many email servers and web servers.

And yet you don't seem to be able to properly use a simple QUOTE tag when you reply on a forum.

Windows suffered fewer security vulnerabilities than Linux last year, according to figures released by vulnerability tracker SecurityFocus.

Need i say more.. .....

Yes, you should provide an exact link to enlighten us. It's hard to dispute general statements from self-proclaimed experts.

Consider this my last reply to you.

 

[guitartango]

And yet you don't seem to be able to properly use a simple QUOTE tag when you reply on a forum.

Yes, you should provide an exact link to enlighten us. It's hard to dispute general statements from self-proclaimed experts.

Consider this my last reply to you.

Not being funny but as soon as you criticise Linux you get this sort of petty comments
"And yet you don't seem to be able to properly"
"Yes, you should provide an exact link to enlighten us"

The trouble is that Linux users don't seem to want to except this and they start throwing tantrums..... read the security forums.

As for me i am still running a new version of unbuntu and Windows 7. I like all OS's but none are perfect.