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I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my new Agile AL3100 flammed maple cherry burst. Maybe today.

My anxiety is not super high becaue I have waited a long time to get an Agile for myself already.

I bought an AL2000 white w gold trim for Charity's grandson along with a Peavey Royal 8 amp. I thought the amp was great by the way and modable.

When I compared the Agile AL2000 to my new Xavier XV500 I thought the Agile was quite noticeably better constructed with better overall components. I did not A/B the sound though and I must say that the Xavier sounds really good with the three quarter inch maple cap and the stock chrome covered crunchy PAT GFS humbuckers.

I like the Xavier but think this AL3100 will sound better and be way better constructed. I will A/B them as well as my Epiphone LP Std plus top with Seymour Duncan covered JB bridge and 59 neck, an awesome sounding guitar.

I will get out the camera and take some pictures of them lined up, outside in the natural light.

Any other owners of the AL3100?
 
Duffy said:
Any other owners of the AL3100?
Yep, I have one. It tends to be my go-to axe for pretty much everything. I haven't replaced the pickups, as I've seen no real need to do so.

I hope you like it, Duff. I think it's a great guitar. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
 
Duffy said:
What color did you get Eric? I almost got black. Got a great deal on the cherry burst one.
I think I got the same as you, cherry sunburst. Even though this is an old-ish picture, you can see it here:

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Agile Rootbeer 3100

I have the 3100 wide, bought it after reviewing it extensively, its a great guitar! I had planned also to change the pups, but I like them the way they are. Might change the switch though.

Rondo page photo:



My photo:



Cant seem to get it bigger, you'll have to clk on it.
 
Strings

Oh yeah - strings.

I'm putting new strings on right away.

What are you guys using for strings on your AL3100's?

I think they come with tens.

I want to replace them with the same thing that's on it so I don't have to mess with the truss rod, hopefully.

I usually use nines but if tens are on it like the Rondo page says, I can appreciate tens with no problem.

So, what gauge strings are you guys using?

Thanks for the feedback.
 
Duffy said:
That's the same color as mine Eric, but your telecaster next to the Seagull - it doesn't look like a Highway One. Is that a different tele?
That's an SX tele I used to have that I traded (along with some other gear) for the Godin.

I used 11s on the Agile, which I like, though I've recently used some lighter strings on other guitars, and I was surprised by the increased playability. I guess it's up to you, but I had mine set up with 11s, so that's what I'm sticking with for the time being.
 
Guitars

It looks like an SX with the new headstock I'm not thrilled with, no offense Eric - I just can't seem to develop a taste for that chef knife headstock shape.

I even emailed Kurt at Rondo last week and asked him if there was any way they could change the headstock to something more appealing to a greater number of people. G and L has a decent alternative and so do a lot of other strat and tele approximators. I even offered to sketch out a headstock design that would be easy to retro finish or incorporate into future designs. He said he was always open to design ideas, legal ones anyway.

I think he could stay legal and still develop a classy headstock.

I have two old school SX strats that I guess I'm keeping. They have the old headstocks and are probably great moding platforms. Both have been modded with locking tuners and stainless steel block saddles. They would be really cool with new pots, switch, and a really nice pearl pickguard. Both of them are candy apple red, one is a maple board the other is rosewood.

Rondo has one model of tele on the website right now with the traditional strat type headstock for 109 and it is very tempting to get as a modding platform but I have enough projects going on right now.

I'm going to stick with the tens on the Agile if that's what it comes with. Otherwise I use a lot of nines for sensitive nuances to the notes with no effort at all.

I put a set of tens, phosphor bronze on my Seagull S6 and a set of thirteens on my Samick Jumbo. They both sound great but different. The Jumbo is loud and the Seagull is mellow.

I don't want to mess with the set up on the Agile unless I have to. The clowns around here, I'm sure, don't know how to do a good set up at the stores. I need to find someone that knows how to do a good set up without travelling too far. Such is living in the sticks.

When you had your Agile set up did you have a pro do it, Eric? Did it sound way better after the set up or was it close from the mfg? I had a place around here do a set up on a new strat I bought and they had the bridge plate angling up in the air about five sixteenths off of the body at the bottom. I had to have someone else straighten it out.

I think I know where a tech is that can do a real good job of setting up the Agile if you guys think it is necessary. I'll check it with my tuner and see how close it is as far as intonation goes.
 
Duffy said:
When you had your Agile set up did you have a pro do it, Eric? Did it sound way better after the set up or was it close from the mfg?
I did have a pro do it -- the guy I trust all repair work to. He's over in NJ, so it's not real quick to get to him, but he has my business.

The setup out of the box wasn't bad. Intonation was off a little bit, and I think he lowered the action a bit and adjusted the truss rod as needed for the 11s. I didn't know anything about setting up a guitar back when I bought it, so I just brought it in and had him do a standard setup. Works great now, but it was pretty good beforehand too.

Regarding the SX headstock, I don't mind it too much. I no longer have the guitar, so I don't care too much, but it never bothered me when I did have it.
 
I had one for 3 years then I sold it, couldn't bear the weight anymore. I went to strats then. That's me wearing the hunk of wood. :)

 
kiteman said:
I had one for 3 years then I sold it, couldn't bear the weight anymore.
You know, I've determined that when I'm actually playing it, it's not the weight that hurts my neck/back -- it's me looking down all of the time. These days, what really gets me about the weight of the Agile is when I just grab an axe to mess around on at home. It's really clunky for those purposes.
 
I've got a 3100M wide, with a 3/4" plain maple top in CSB. It's a superb guitar.

The weight's not that bad with a good wide strap to spread it out a bit.
 
I've got an ebony AL-3000 with the wide profile neck. Differs from the 3100 only in the fact that the neck inlays are abalone rather than MoP. Beautiful guitar, very well built, great workmanship, and plays like a dream. While the stock bridge pickup sounded quite good, I wasn't impressed by the neck p'up, which was a bit on the dull/muddy side. I installed a set of Guitarforce "Lord of the Blues" humbuckers in it, thanks to a tip from Bloozcat, and it now sounds just great at all pickup settings. Photos:

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Bloozcat said:
The weight's not that bad with a good wide strap to spread it out a bit.
I agree, and that's the point I was making -- it's more that the weight is annoying when I just want to pick up and play for a few minutes at home.
 
Hey Duff, I think you'll be really happy with your choice. I have the AL3000, which is the same except for the inlay, which is abalone on mine. I also have the Epi Tribute LP, like you do. They compare pretty favorably.

I did change the pickups, and all the cream trim parts for black. The pickups that came on it were fine, but I just wanted to change things up a bit. Here's a photo I took this afternoon:

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It now has the GFS VEH (Vintage Extra Hot) pickups. I've grown fond of them. They're not as warm as the Gibby 57s in my Tribute, but they sound pretty dang good.
 
I just realized that mine was a 3000, not the 3100. I chose mine black because it was all mahogany, no maple cap.

Anyway later I put in EMG 81 & 60, removed two knob and installed EXG and Afterburner. Uses up batteries (18v mod) but jammin' sob. :)
 
3100

Frankenfretter,

Ya, we do have some of the same stuff: I have a new style V Jr. w cab currently hooked up to my Epi So. Cal. cabinet for awesome tone even straight up, an old-ish Marshall Valvestate VS30R without a tube just straight ss that I want to put a new speaker in - I think it is worn out, dried out, bought Charity's grandson a new Peavey Royal 8 and thought it was a great tube amp worthy of some mods like a new speaker and something else I read about but it sounded real real good with a lot of tonal variety out of just those few knobs if you messed with them. I have a Egnater Tweaker on the way, supposed to show up on Thursday, which is supposed to be a lot like the Night Train, and want to get a pickup booster - either a Boosta Grande or preferably at this point, a Seymour Duncan "Pickup Booster" that fattens up single coils in addition to the boost function.

I DO like the black trim you put on the Agile cherry burst flame. Where did you get that stuff? Rondo? I'd like to do that. Nice pickups. My Xavier XV500 has stock GFS hot crunchy PAT humbuckers, chrome covered that sound really good and push the tube amp into very early overdrive even on the clean channel, which I like. I'll use my strats for clean headroom. I like a driving LP type guitar. How do those GFS pickups sound? Better than the stock Agile alnico fives? Are the GFS's ceramic magnets?

Question: How do you use your Boosta Grande? Do you use it with both the ss and tube amps? How does it work? Do you crank it up to max boost or find a happy medium?

My understanding is that it hits the tube preamp with a stronger signal that sends it into earlier preamp overdrive at lower volumes. Is this correct or do I have it wrong. I'm thinking it gives you less clean headroom if you crank it up to high boost values.

I spent some time at a local guitar store tonight and helped a guy pick out a new guitar - he got an Ibanez ART100 in beautiful deep maroon trans stain over the natural mahogany top. Great sounding guitar. Sounded better than some SD JB and 59 equipped LTD's. Passive HB's, beautiful sound a little less hot than the SD's but really toneful. One great sounding and playing and looking guitar for less than three hundred. Nice starter guitar. I helped him pick one out and worked it thru the voices of a Super Champ XD. He played a Viper, ART300, and LTD EC256, but the Ibanez ART100 had them all beat in the same price range, we both agree'd. He went home with the guitar. It felt good to help someone sort thru the dilema of picking out the best guitar from several. I advised him that how it sounds, feels, and playability should probably take precedence over preconceived ideas before going into the store, price, and brand name. I advised him to get a solid brand name because he is going to get into a band and that the audition would look at his equipment brand names as well as him, quality of his gear, etc. Then I asked him if he wanted to play thru a band quality Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and he said yes. He liked that but the Peavey Delta Blues two ten inch speaker one he liked better - better distortion channel and just better sounding amp.

Which brings me to: when I got home I got my Limitted Edition lacquered tweed Hot Rod Deluxe with Jensen P12n speaker out of my guitar room and bought it to my bedroom where my amp wall is. I plugged that in and played my G and L Tribute series ASAT classic tele thru it and it sounded WAY better than the stock one at the store. Even the overdrive channels sounded great. Then I plugged in my Fender mahogany FMT dual SD humbucker set neck black cherry burst telecaster into it and it really sounded nice. Sometimes getting the premium version pays off in the long run - this sounds so much better than the stock HRDX.

By the way, the Deluxe series Fender amps have all been replaced with a new Deluxe III version with an audio taper volume knob and better distortion channel; and all the old Hot Rod series are all being blown out - the Hot Rod Blues Jr's, Devilles, Blues Deluxes, and Hot Rod Deluxes. I don't know, my distortion channel is one of the best I've played, but it is a special edition with a big buck speaker. I got that HRDX for like 400 dollars in a Music 123 sale promotion that they misprinted, but they stood behind the ones they sold for 400 - it was supposed to be on sale for 799. Lucked out majorly on that lacquered tweed beautiful amp, real lacquered tweed - not contact paper photo finish immitation tweed looking, like on the Peavey Delta Blues awesome fifteen inch speaker amp I have. I didn't even notice the contact paper for months until it started curling.

My Hot Rod Deluxe amp will aggravate any LOUD drummer, which was my main reason for getting it. I can't stand an arrogant drummer yelling to you, "Hey man, why don't you get a real amp!", because your current amp isn't loud enough to cut through his slamming. Why don't these drummers learn some dynamics and try to learn how to play at volumes other than full tilt boogie? My pro drummer friend does that - slammer thing all the time. He's good, but only knows how to slam.

I cranked that HRDX to the max this evening and it shook the house. I plan on playing it a lot. It has not been played at all in over a year and before that only slightly for a couple years. I guess I was trying to "save" it. I'm not saving things anymore, I'm going to enjoy things. I also think playing stuff is better for it than letting it sit there with no current flowing thru it.

I'm getting the 3100 cherry burst flamed maple top Wednesday morning at nine thirty - picking it up at the Fed Ex place. Putting on new tens and then take some pictures. Hopefully I will get them posted. I will probably spend a few hours messing with the 3100 before doing anything else. My anxiety is right up there and I hope I get a real nice one, well set up, low action, buzzless. I talked to a tech today and he said he would do a complete set up for me on Thursday when I bring it in to show it to him.

By the way, I played an Epiphone Prophecy LP with dirty fingers Gibson pickups the other day - awesome guitar, great sound.

Also, I'd buy an Ibanez ART100 in a minute, without even questioning it, if it sounded like the one we were playing tonight - great inexpensive guitar. Same price as the 3100 I bought - 299 brand new not a B stock, lucked out.

I'm looking forward to another really heavy LP type guitar, although that Ibanez ART100 LP type was mahogany but thin bodied and very light compared to my Epiphones and Michael Kelly Patriot Custom.

I will let you all know how that Tweaker amp turns out, in my opinion. It comes in to Fed Ex on Thursday. I can always send it back and get a Bugera V22 or a Jet City twenty watt head if I think it isn't all it's claimed to be.

I have been wanting an Agile for a long long time and I'm glad I waited it out until I could afford one of the nicer models. I hope I get a good one and don't have to go thru the send it back for one that doesn't have any problems, like I had to do with my Xavier XV500 - but the one I eventually got is a very nice guitar that could use a few minor upgrades to make it a major guitar.

Well, enough anxiety venting. I'll let you guys know how the Agile looks, feels and plays in the morning or afternoon.
 
Duffy said:
Frankenfretter,

I DO like the black trim you put on the Agile cherry burst flame. Where did you get that stuff? Rondo? I'd like to do that. Nice pickups. My Xavier XV500 has stock GFS hot crunchy PAT humbuckers, chrome covered that sound really good and push the tube amp into very early overdrive even on the clean channel, which I like. I'll use my strats for clean headroom. I like a driving LP type guitar. How do those GFS pickups sound? Better than the stock Agile alnico fives? Are the GFS's ceramic magnets?

Yeah, I got everything but the "Rhythm/Treble" switch plate from Rondo. Those GFS VEH pickups sound good; they're not as vintage sounding as I was expecting, but they still are a warm-sounding pu'p. They use AlNiCo V magnets, same as the Agile stock. The stock pickups actually sounded really good. I'd say the GFS pickups sound hotter, though. Not a lot hotter, just a bit.

Question: How do you use your Boosta Grande? Do you use it with both the ss and tube amps? How does it work? Do you crank it up to max boost or find a happy medium?

My understanding is that it hits the tube preamp with a stronger signal that sends it into earlier preamp overdrive at lower volumes. Is this correct or do I have it wrong. I'm thinking it gives you less clean headroom if you crank it up to high boost values.

I use it at the front of my pedal chain. I don't use it with the Roland Cube, since the one time I tried that it sounded terrible. I run my Night Train and the Marshall in stereo, and the boost pedal does well with that combination. It isn't really designed to add more dirt, but you're right; it does hit the preamp harder. Running clean, I really haven't had any problems with it messing with the clean headroom. With some guitars it just makes them louder, some it just makes them a bit more "present". I vary the amount of boost depending on the guitar and the sound I want.

Hope that answers your questions, Duffy. By the way, I really don't like my Peavey Royal 8. The overdrive sounds brittle, like a kazoo. I changed out the speaker for a Jensen Mod, but that didn't make much difference. Also changed the preamp tube for a different Sylvania 12AX7, but that also made no difference. What mods have you heard about for that amph?
 
Home

The Agile is home.

It came with the action so low that the strings were only less than a sixteenth of an inch off of the fretboard. The neck, however, looked nice and straight with a little convex curvature on the board.

I stopped at a local high class music store that Chris Bovard, the "Kahunna", as in "The Kahunna" Heritage LP copy guitar; named after Chris who is a great blues guitar player in a super good blues band. He is a friend of mine. Within two minutes he raised up the bridge and tuned it up with super low buzz free action, and sent me into the amp room to test it out. Before I got a chance to play it Chris came in the room and I handed him the guitar and he played it thru an awesome Kustom '36 Coupe tube amp. The guitar sounded great in his hands. He had raised the pickups and told me that they were balanced very well in volume and set up right.

Then I played it and drifted into dream land, laying down some blues lines and grooving on the mellow tone of the guitar thru the '36 Coupe in vintage overdrive. Very mellow sounding in all switch positions. Then I switched to the clean channel and played some rock and more blues, drifting into dream land and losing track of time, immersed in the groove and enjoying the tone as I let it roll out with no particular place to go. Very enjoyable.

The guitar is awesome. I'm about to put some new D'darrio tens on it right now.

After playing the Agile I took down a beautiful beautiful Michael Kelly Patriot in one of the best spalted maple patterns I've seen. This five hundred dollar guitar sounded great tuned up and played thru the Coupe. Rockfield zebra open coil pickups, not sure which humbucker design but very nice and bright compared to the Agile and it hit the notes with charm and the playability was superb. I could see getting this guitar for a birthday or Christmas present, maybe lay it away.

Of further mention on the Agile, I noticed that when playing "Midnight Rider" the chords fell into my hands with minimum effort on the chunky feeling neck, which I liked the feel of a lot.

The Agile definitely feels different than my other LP type guitars, primarily I suppose in the neck. The guitar resonates incredibly. I think a heavier neck has more mass and the mahogany resonates more and carries a deeper very full tone down into the body and to the pickups. This may be partly contributory to the deeper more mellow tone than the Michael Kelly Patriot, but then again the mellowness may be due to the need for a new set of strings. I will be finding out shortly.

The Agile is a great guitar. Beautiful with the cherry flammed burst and transparent neck and classy looking double binding. The covered humbuckers are unlike any others I own: they are brushed nickel and make for a slightly demure vibe to an otherwise pretty flashy looking guitar, cherry burst flame and all. The tuners feel great.

Also made an agreement to start getting lessons with Chris in the blues starting next Thursday. Having this chance to learn from a great player like Chris is a great thing.

Now on to the re-stringing and a follow up on how it affects the sound. Hopefully it will sound better than my barking dogs out in the back yard right now, LOL.
 
Pictures

Almost took the pictures yesterday.

Today I pick up the Tweaker. I'll get some pictures today, but I have to take care of a couple things today; pick up new glasses and some other stuff but that will be early this morning.

Then on to Tweakerville for the fun. I also want to get the Xavier in the pictures and some of my other new upgrades to my guitar collection, like my tele's and my hot rodded Squire strat with the Fat '50s Custom Shop pickups. Also the pickguard mod on my Squier Std tele so I can pull the pickguard straight up to take it off, switch pickups, etc. I installed the neck pickup directly onto the new aged pearl white pickguard instead of leaving it screwed into the body like on the old style tele neck pickup mounting system. I like this way better. Makes way more sense. Also I don't think I posted any pictures of my mahogany SD dual humbucker set mahogany neck black cherry flame burst Fender FMT HH special edition telecaster - awesome guitar in my opinion. Play it all the time and it sits right here with the new Agile.

The Agile sounds super great with the stock pickups. Don't know whay I would like to change them. The body on the Agile looks a little thicker than on my Epiphone Standard LP's. Maybe it will show in the pictures.

How about the idea of putting a Bigsby B5 on my "road warrior" Epi LP with the kill switch mod already done and the previously snapped neck fixed in a very "road worn" appearing way? Plays great though, very respectably. Seymour Duncan open coil hot rodded humbucker set - JB bridge, Jazz neck. Do you think the Bigsby would be a great idea or lead to a degradation of tone?
 
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3100 pictures

Not sunny today. Might take some inside. Beautiful guitar and sounds super beautiful. Can't believe I didn't get one of these sooner. Very high class guitar.

Furthermore, I picked up my Egnater Tweaker head this morning and it is all plugged in and rigged up; sounding good after preliminary checking it over.

The Tweaker looks real nice too. It has a really strong wooden looking basket weave going on, on the front above the knobs, where it says Egnater. Very classic old fashioned vibe visually. I like the deceptively simple looking control panel with its diminutive, very laid back, un-ostensibly presented mini metal toggle switches, with a stealthy appeal for those who like non-flashy, non-blinged out but demure looking "hot rodded" guitars and amps. The black tolex and woody basket weave nullifies any need for tweed, to my eye. Very pleasing to the eye. I'll be hearing how pleasing to the ear it is thru my So. Cal. Epiphone 4 X 12 Lady Luck rigged cabinet I have it plugged into here, right quickly and will report back - before the pictures. I'm going to groove on this rig.

I'll post shortly.
 
Pictures

Pictures will be definitely be forthcoming. I want to try to get some nice ones of this top and bottom bound body and the really nice flammed maple top. Looks like there is a maple cap on this one even though the description doesn't specify one, based upon the lines definitely discernable below the top binding in the front and at the bottom. I'm not going to pull a pickup and check it out at this time, but will take note and mention it at a future point in time when a pickup of switch has to be accessed.
 
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