Can't we all just get along?
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tjcurtin1
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Spudman said:
+1 +1 +1
We old 'uns can't just create a huge mess and then say, "It's up to you young 'uns to clean up after us now - good luck!"
deeaa
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Man, I so love this forum, it's such a nice place and has tons of people with good ideas and good hearts. None of the crowd that just want to fight and argue, but just sensible people all round. Being such a straight talker and freely expressing my ideas, whether right or wrong, I sometimes feel I probably sound like the biggest a-hole around here now and then & pushing the envelope of what is acceptable in the rules...but nevertheless, I find myself constantly getting pleasantly surprised about how well people here can get along, regardless of how they might find things.
Which brings me to the original topic...why can't we all just get along...people are just built that way...what ever it is a person is lacking, that is what makes people not get along. Being jealous of something, maybe not being as well-off as the other guy, maybe being fatter or disgruntled at the office, whatever it is, it has to come out somehow, and the natural outlet is the other guy, who is better off or has a better job, or whatever. It's never one's own fault they are down and poor and whatever, it's somebody else's fault, and it has to be compensated for by using hate, violence or just plain words.
I was brought up by a father who never ever got mad at me, or anybody, ever. He always understood everybody. I don't, but I do try to live as well as I can and trust and forgive people, and accept the fact that sometimes I'm wrong. I can't ever be as stable a rock as my father always was...sometimes i get mad, sometimes I yell at my kids and sometimes I yell at myself and don't know what to do...he never did. The only time I ever recall him even raising his voice at me was when I slammed the car door shut so that his fingers got trapped in the crack between the body and the door, and he said pretty angrily something like 'get the door open real quick!' and after that he said to me in pretty angry voice that I should really watch what I do a little better...
So anyway; I must accept that I'm weaker in that respect. I don't hate anything or anybody and always try to think the best of the next guy, but however I try, I sometimes feel anger towards how people are or do. Can't be helped. But it is a human condition, and something that is probably built into us as a survival method, as we are animals still in many respects. And driven by our hormones and DNA and things I don't fully understand, nevertheless being biological beings it is in our nature to be, in some degree, natural in the same way as animals are, in that we strive to survive and make sure that our offspring and ourselves thrive. And that sometimes means attacking those that step on our turf, infringe on our priviledges.
So, I don't know if it will ever change in a very basic way. Put two men on a desert island with food and drink just for one and before long they will fight for it, however humanistic they may be. And so it should be. BUT I still firmly belive, that however thin the layer of civilization is on us, there is still hope for humanity and it _is_ getting better every day. I see it on my sons, and I hope they might be better people than I am, when they grow up.
Which brings me to the original topic...why can't we all just get along...people are just built that way...what ever it is a person is lacking, that is what makes people not get along. Being jealous of something, maybe not being as well-off as the other guy, maybe being fatter or disgruntled at the office, whatever it is, it has to come out somehow, and the natural outlet is the other guy, who is better off or has a better job, or whatever. It's never one's own fault they are down and poor and whatever, it's somebody else's fault, and it has to be compensated for by using hate, violence or just plain words.
I was brought up by a father who never ever got mad at me, or anybody, ever. He always understood everybody. I don't, but I do try to live as well as I can and trust and forgive people, and accept the fact that sometimes I'm wrong. I can't ever be as stable a rock as my father always was...sometimes i get mad, sometimes I yell at my kids and sometimes I yell at myself and don't know what to do...he never did. The only time I ever recall him even raising his voice at me was when I slammed the car door shut so that his fingers got trapped in the crack between the body and the door, and he said pretty angrily something like 'get the door open real quick!' and after that he said to me in pretty angry voice that I should really watch what I do a little better...
So anyway; I must accept that I'm weaker in that respect. I don't hate anything or anybody and always try to think the best of the next guy, but however I try, I sometimes feel anger towards how people are or do. Can't be helped. But it is a human condition, and something that is probably built into us as a survival method, as we are animals still in many respects. And driven by our hormones and DNA and things I don't fully understand, nevertheless being biological beings it is in our nature to be, in some degree, natural in the same way as animals are, in that we strive to survive and make sure that our offspring and ourselves thrive. And that sometimes means attacking those that step on our turf, infringe on our priviledges.
So, I don't know if it will ever change in a very basic way. Put two men on a desert island with food and drink just for one and before long they will fight for it, however humanistic they may be. And so it should be. BUT I still firmly belive, that however thin the layer of civilization is on us, there is still hope for humanity and it _is_ getting better every day. I see it on my sons, and I hope they might be better people than I am, when they grow up.
deeaa said:
I, and I'm sure many others here, appreciate what you have to say here, deeaa (even if you are almost always wrong).
Seriously though, your contributions are always thoughtful and often thought provoking. You have intelligent things to say but you always say them with respect and don't flame anyone who may disagree.
I think the reason why The Fret is such a great place is that no one here takes advantage of their anonymity to do harm to others (like one finds in so many forums). The members here overwhelmingly foster a culture of mutual respect and support. A culture that developed, I'm sure, from the original idea behind it all.
Deeaa, there are some people who post here that I am more inclined to read than others. I'm am always particularly interested in what you have to say. I may not always agree with you (often do though), but I always like your style.
However, if I can choose who to be stranded on a desert island with (with "food and drink just for one"), perhaps you would not be the safest choice...:saw:
Tig
Valar Morghulis
Tig said:
OK, one more, and this is a biggie that is applied all too little...
Tolerance
Spudman
Luke Skyrawker
mrmudcat
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:saw: :rotflmao:
deeaa said:LOL yeah the best choice in that situation would be somebody very fat & in poor shape to they'd be easy to knock down and provide lots of nutrition :spank:ancake
:spank:
ancakeuke::rollover
mainestratman
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You guys rock. 
Katastrophe
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I believe that civility is at an all time low. It has to do, IMO, with the stressors that we put ourselves through on a daily basis.
Rush here. Rush there.
Work more / harder.
Get more stuff so we can look cool to our neighbors.
It all leads to less human to human contact in a very real way. With no outlet, it has to come out. When it does, it's usually not nice, or productive.
There's always going to be conflict, in the world between nations, localities, and in our homes. It's part of the human condition. However, the way we interact can change. All it takes is one person at a time, working at being more civil with the next guy or gal.
What I like about this forum is that when we disagree, we either work it out, or agree to have differing opinions, without degenerating to some of the nasty squabbles that happen on other forums.
I'm just a guy. I can't control the behavior of others, but I CAN change how I react.
Rush here. Rush there.
Work more / harder.
Get more stuff so we can look cool to our neighbors.
It all leads to less human to human contact in a very real way. With no outlet, it has to come out. When it does, it's usually not nice, or productive.
There's always going to be conflict, in the world between nations, localities, and in our homes. It's part of the human condition. However, the way we interact can change. All it takes is one person at a time, working at being more civil with the next guy or gal.
What I like about this forum is that when we disagree, we either work it out, or agree to have differing opinions, without degenerating to some of the nasty squabbles that happen on other forums.
I'm just a guy. I can't control the behavior of others, but I CAN change how I react.
Tig
Valar Morghulis
Katastrophe said:
Maybe knowing that we'll treat and be treated with respect and civility is what keeps this forum so focused and positive. We have a safe place to share without fear of being flamed for every little disagreement or opinion difference.
The positive momentum here is maintained by each of us. Pretty cool, eh? :thankyou
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