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I agree that the kid was dumb to run his mouth off and give the Gators any more encouragement to kick their butts, but in fairness, the actual statement he made was accurate.

He said Tebow would only be the 4th best QB in the Big 12. I believe that's true. While he may definitely be a better athlete than McCoy, Bradford and Harrell, he is not a better QB.

Still, making the comment to the press before the game is not a good strategy. Of course, that kind of stupidity has been exhibited by the Gators as well, with UF's Brandon Spikes calling OU's defense a "joke". Another case of saying something that's accurate but that shouldn't have been said. OU's defense is a joke, especially compared to the UF defense which is the second best defense I saw all season.

http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/...2009-01-06/ufs_spikes_calls_ou_defense_a_joke
 
the UW Huskies defeat the spawn of accursed southern california entitlement and evil, USC! YES!!!!! I love it! Two wins for the Dawgs, and though I do not "hate" many teams, USC is, well, I'll just say not my favorite by a long shot. That annoying Tusk song alone is bad enough. Well, sorry to any USC fans out there, but I am celebrating tonight!!! :beer: :D
 
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I thought that USC game was "interesting" too, although that REALLY makes the Big 10 look bad. I was hoping MSU could also knock off Notre Dame, but they choked. It took Michigan 10 weeks to get their third win. This year it took three. Granted, two of them were against the Little Sisters of the Poor. We won't know who Michigan really is until they face MSU, Penn State, and Ohio State.
 
well you guys know i root for usc out of family loyalty, but that loss should be quite embarrassing for them. congratulations to washington for playing a better game, but that usc team seems to have a problem on the road against pac-10 opponents the week after a big non-conference game. i am sure this will be like last year, and they will roll over everyone between here and thanksgiving, but yesterday may have cost them any shot at a title game.

still, good for uw, and great for the pac-10. the more competitive the conference is, the better everyone's chances a pac-10 team can have a title shot.
 
I noticed the AP coverage opened with the line that USC fell victim to their post Ohio state lethargy, rather than falling victim to a hungry team that was better on that given day. Hmm, I disagree. Contrary to Joe McKnight's statement: "Washington wasn't the better team. They just outplayed us.", the Huskies were better yesterday. So with an even record and the Huskies triumphant over USC, shouldn't the Huskies be on top of USC in the polls rather than SC falling to 12 and the Huskies just entering? Seriously though, for many years, the Huskies played with entitlement and cockiness, and I do not want the Huskies losing any of their hungriness and work ethic just because they pulled on out over SC and beat Idaho, who they should beat on any day of the week.
 
This is tricky noles ,bama, canes, gators.........in that order or whoever is winning:rotflmao: I developed a hate thing for bamas coach after his fins debacle:D .........
 
Go Bulls!

it's a final

#18 florida state - 7

university of south florida - 17

i had held off on posting in this thread the last three weeks because wins over wofford, western kentucky and charleston southern are not precisely accomplishments worthy of bragging.

however, today the unranked usf bulls went to tallahassee and took it to florida state, shutting down their offense almost entirely.

the bulls offense looked better than i'd expected a week after the injury loss of senior qb matt grothe (the big east's all time leading scorer). today they started true freshman qb b.j. daniels and the kid (mostly) looked comfortable and ready to go.

still, it was the defense that led the way today.

this is, without a doubt, the biggest win in the history of this program. for an 11 year old program to take out a ranked fsu team in tallahassee, this will go a long long way towards changing the face of recruiting the top prospects, both in florida and nationally.

go bulls!

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i have a question about the tebow injury...

it's actually more about urban meyer

if the guy is really the genius coach everyone seems to think he is then why on earth would he have his superstar quarterback out there at all in the second half of a 31-7 game against kentucky?

it's kentucky and it's not basketball, so a comeback was not happening.

a real genius coach would have used the opportunity to get brantley some playing time.

of course i know why he had tebow out there

it's fairly obvious

they all want tebow to win consecutive heisman trophies, so meyer is giving him the opportunity to pad his stats. i find it kind of disturbing and it sucks that it wound up with tebow getting hurt.
 
No football love in the PNW this weekend. Huskies faltered with missteps against Stanford, and allowed Stanford to continue running to control the game/ Oh well. Still better than last year, and I hope the Huskies learn to tighten things up and compete.
 
R_of_G said:
of course i know why he had tebow out there

it's fairly obvious

they all want tebow to win consecutive heisman trophies, so meyer is giving him the opportunity to pad his stats. i find it kind of disturbing and it sucks that it wound up with tebow getting hurt.
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Basically. The thing is that if he gets hurt they are in a world of trouble.
 
marnold said:
Basically. The thing is that if he gets hurt they are in a world of trouble.
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one wonders if they're in trouble anyway

nobody can predict how an athlete's game may change post-concussion (or any injury really)

so many of them are never the same as they begin to fear contact and contact is what tebow's game is all about

we shall see how he does when plays again but meyer better hope for his sake that the kid is the same
 
The U. of Hawaii takes on WAC foe UNLV Wed. on USPN.
This game should show where the Warriors are this year. We have a young but good team this year, better than the preseason skank rank of #5 in the WAC (and should have won last week), but got some angry jaws (Fresno dawgs, etc.) coming up to deal with.
 
so i know none of us understand how the ridiculous rankings work, but can someone venture an explanation as to how a 3-1 team outranks a 4-0 team when both are in the same conference?

yes, i am talking about ohio st and iowa.

as usual, ohio st has shown me nothing at all. iowa, on the other hand, looked damn good against penn state. since both play in the big 10, i don't get how nationally 3-1 beat 4-0.

i can't even pretend to understand the way the polls work anymore.

i used to roll my eyes at the whole joke of "strength of conference" putting one loss teams ahead of unbeaten teams from other "weaker" conferences, but iowa plays in the same conference as ohio st and they beat a ranked penn state team while so far the buckeyes have beaten such powerhouses as navy and toledo. yes, illinois is a decent team, but compared to beating penn state in happy valley? i am just tired of ohio state getting ahead on reputation alone.
 
R_of_G said:
i used to roll my eyes at the whole joke of "strength of conference" putting one loss teams ahead of unbeaten teams from other "weaker" conferences, but iowa plays in the same conference as ohio st and they beat a ranked penn state team while so far the buckeyes have beaten such powerhouses as navy and toledo. yes, illinois is a decent team, but compared to beating penn state in happy valley? i am just tired of ohio state getting ahead on reputation alone.
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Two words: pre-season polls.

Those are the most worthless things in the world. That's how stuff like this happens. Wait until the first conference game is played, then rank 'em. Pre-season polls have very little relationship to reality and end up skewing things like this. The only good news here is that there's still plenty of season left to sort everything out. I foresee at least two inexplicable losses for Iowa yet.

For whatever reason, Iowa seems to have Penn State's number recently.
 
with several ranked teams losing and usf winning (again) i expect to find my bulls among the top 25 this week. there is no excuse for keeping them out of the top 25 if some of these other teams remain in.

also, the notre dame/washington game is reminding me what i hate about the way college football does overtime. this is the biggest joke ever. i am not a fan of the shootout in hockey either. i don't enjoy contrived situations to settle a game. just play more actual game.
 
R_of_G said:
also, the notre dame/washington game is reminding me what i hate about the way college football does overtime. this is the biggest joke ever. i am not a fan of the shootout in hockey either. i don't enjoy contrived situations to settle a game. just play more actual game.
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Just curious, what do you think of the NFL OT system? I personally think it is a joke. In most cases the game is decided by a flip of a coin.
 
just strum said:
Just curious, what do you think of the NFL OT system? I personally think it is a joke. In most cases the game is decided by a flip of a coin.
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i have heard this before.

i strongly disagree.

if the team that loses the toss can play defense and make a stop, the outcome is not a foregone conclusion.

defense is key in the nfl system. if you can't make a stop, you don't deserve to win the game.

i think what i enjoy though is that it is an actual situation, kickoff, return, downs, etc. as opposed to placing the ball at a specific point and giving both teams a chance to play from there. that's so contrived.
 
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also, the notre dame/washington game is reminding me what i hate about the way college football does overtime. this is the biggest joke ever.
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Or soccer shoot outs. I was not happy with it either, but WA gave it a go, and on the road. The pride is coming back to the program it seems at least.
 
no doubt steve, win or lose, washington has shown they are on the way up. if they accomplish nothing else, they've already improved their recruiting stance going into the next few years and that's how one builds a program.

and yes, soccer shootouts go in the mix as well.

could you imagine if baseball decided to ditch extra innings in favour of a home-run derby type scenario, or if basketball ties were settled by a series of foul shots? those two sports at least realize, the best way to settle an unsettled game is by playing more of the game.
 
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They play for a set time period, not until the first one scores in OT. I understand your beliefs in defense, we share that, but sudden death just doesn't make it for me.

But that is NFL, so I digress.
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it's not a digression at all my friend, it all ties in. :D

obviously in basketball sudden death is not practical as even with the tightest defense, basketball is the sport in which scoring is most probable.

but in football, baseball, or hockey i think there's a reasonable expectation that the defense should be able to pitch a shutout.
 
R_of_G said:
it's not a digression at all my friend, it all ties in. :D

obviously in basketball sudden death is not practical as even with the tightest defense, basketball is the sport in which scoring is most probable.

but in football, baseball, or hockey i think there's a reasonable expectation that the defense should be able to pitch a shutout.
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I will say the Browns/Bengals game proved your point today.
 
just strum said:
I will say the Browns/Bengals game proved your point today.
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yes, if the browns defense could have made a stop on that 4th and 11, they'd have won that game.
 
Congrats to the Gator fans!! I am no LSU fan and am glad to see the Gators win it.

The Huskies closed down AZ's run pretty well but were getting hurt by short passes directly left or right. Down by more than a touchdown with about 4 min to go, Locker gets one touchdown to bring it closer at 2:55, then an enterprising linebacker reads the same pass play, moves to jump the route, the Arizona quarterback read it, and tried hitting a receiver a few more yards down the field – except the ball was behind the receiver, bounced off the receiver's foot, ricocheted backward, hit the linebacker in the arm, who grabbed it and was off to the races on a 37-yard interception return for a touchdown. YEEEE-HAAHHHH!!!!

Of course not a dominant performance by the Huskies. But staying in it and remaining competitive, Locker making a drive to close the gap, and be in position for the weird defensive play, is a whole lot better than before. Go Huskies!

I may have to get some better cable coverage so I can watch this stuff live.
 
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i'd like to see the gators drop in the polls. how many times in the past have we seen a top team not win by a large enough margin and get dropped?

and i still don't get how ohio state outranks cincinnati.

usf plays cincinnati this thursday.

that should be a great game.

i hope so anyway.
 
Bama and Gators would be fun ..........:happy

Great games yesterday and frankly I have been enjoying saturday real men football as opposed to sunday flag football........NFL has really pansified this year with girly rules and bad calls by the refs.........NFL Q.B.'S might as well start taking yoga classes:happy

I seen more hits on Q.B.'S(as well as overall hitting, tackles) on saturday no flags than last sunday's "pro" games:thwap
 
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