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Syo... inquiring minds want to know.. how about some new eye-candy or a status update? ;-) :dude
 
bcdon said:
Syo... inquiring minds want to know.. how about some new eye-candy or a status update? ;-) :dude
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Hey Don. I've been playing around quite alot these days with different media to create some new finishes. I'm thinking to offer some custom one-offs that I'll do here in Japan. I was going to wait to post these until the process was further along so please understand that this is far from finished. Just put the first couple of clear on today. Also, this is really just a test to see how the materials interact so it's rather rough.

First, the metal leaf without paint:

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/Bender_varie1_prepnt.jpg

Second, my attempt at a burst finish with nitro rattle cans. I've never really used them before so it was pretty awkward to work with. The burst went too wide due to my inexperience. (I used to do airbrush illustration professionally but an ex-girlfriend "borrowed" my tools years ago and I've seen neither her or the tools since. Guess I'll have to buy the stuff all over again...:thwap ). This isn't great but ok for a test anyway:

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/Bender_varie1_2clears.jpg

I dont know if I'll use these or not but just got these hofner style knobs to see how they might look. Not sure really. (USD $10 EACH believe it or not).

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/Bender_varie1_hofner_knobs.jpg

This isn't a pitch at all Don, but I really do appreciate your interest and enthusiasm over my project. Every query makes me smile and pushes me in a good direction. If ever you decide to go to Hell, I'll give you the no risk/half price special. Valid forever. Thanks man.
 
I like your experimentation with the finishes, Syo. I think the burst looks pretty cool. And those Hofner-style knobs are also very cool, although they seem a bit cost-prohibitive.

I imagine I'm not the only one here at The Fret who can hardly wait for these to go into production. Will you personally sign every guitar that fellow Fretters order? ;-)
 
Thanks, Syo!!

Even though the finish is not complete, I think this one is really awesome.
Bender_varie1_prepnt.jpg


I really like the knobs even if $10/each does seem a lot.. but not too much for such a kick-a** effect. I can see that you are a real perfectionist and are thinking about every aspect of your guitars. Very nice.
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I didn't take it as a pitch at all. In fact, thanks! I really enjoy watching your progress on these beautiful guitars and I can't wait to go to Hell. :dude
 
FrankenFretter said:
I imagine I'm not the only one here at The Fret who can hardly wait for these to go into production. Will you personally sign every guitar that fellow Fretters order? ;-)
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:D That's very kind Sean. I'm really glad to hear some of my fellow fretters reacting positively about some of my designs. This and other forums are a testament to the passion guitarists have for their gear. Hopefully the finished products will inspire some passion too. That's my goal anyway.

bcdon said:
I can see that you are a real perfectionist and are thinking about every aspect of your guitars. Very nice.
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Perhaps if I was a little less so, they would be ready for market already. ;)
In the end, I'm sure I will miss perfection but I really am enjoying the process.

tjcurtin1 said:
That Bender paint job is one of the most beautiful - and creative - guitar finishes that I've ever seen!
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Thanks alot TJ. While working on it I've been excited by the direction it is going but all the while I've been wondering if it will have any appeal. Nice to hear that someone else sees something in it too. Your comment made my day.
 
Man, I have been overlooking this thread for too long. Excellent work. The No. 2 and No. 6 have my attention. The gilded looks makes me think you should try one totally steampunk.

I am totally curious as to price at this point. Any hints?

All the product names thrown around, you missed the obvious for one (should it fit)... Hell's Heaven
 
Auriemma said:
Man, I have been overlooking this thread for too long. Excellent work. The No. 2 and No. 6 have my attention. The gilded looks makes me think you should try one totally steampunk.

I am totally curious as to price at this point. Any hints?

All the product names thrown around, you missed the obvious for one (should it fit)... Hell's Heaven
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Yeah, on the last patterned metal leaf body pic I posted, as I was painting it made me think steampunk too. I wasn't setting out to do it though. I do know someone who does some antique-look metal casting so I may play around with a somewhat steampunk theme.

Regarding pricing, it's looking like around USD$299-$329 and up. That is if I decide to have versions with the cheaper Wilkinson pups or not. Still not sure. They will definitely be equipped with the considerably more expensive Bare Knuckles. Prices will start at around $450-$500 and up depending on model. Not a bad deal I think considering Bare Knuckles alone sell for around $300 or so for a set.

I am starting to do custom finishes myself. I wish I could spend all my time on these as I love doing this. These would be my "custom" models and I have no idea at all on pricing for these. Probably vary in price depending on materials, hours spent and how much/little I like the end result. :french :D
 
These guitar designs are simply awesome. Exactly the kind of thing I love...Original and good-looking designs.
 
Syo, will you be selling any of your prototypes? Just curious. This thread has been so interesting and exciting, watching the progress of things as you see your dream become reality. It's been a real pleasure to live somewhat vicariously though you, and experience all the things that you're going through as this goes forward. Thank you for sharing with us!
 
kerc said:
These guitar designs are simply awesome. Exactly the kind of thing I love...Original and good-looking designs.
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Thanks kerc, for the kind words.

FrankenFretter said:
Syo, will you be selling any of your prototypes? Just curious. This thread has been so interesting and exciting, watching the progress of things as you see your dream become reality. It's been a real pleasure to live somewhat vicariously though you, and experience all the things that you're going through as this goes forward. Thank you for sharing with us!
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Hey Sean. Thanks. I'm thinking about maybe selling a few to make some room but not 100% sure yet. As this is a new brand it is especially important that whatever is sold speaks well of the name on the headstock. I've got some I wouldn't sell because designs were changed and a few with minor (but unfortunate) cosmetic issues. But there are a few I might let go after some upcoming photo/video shoots. I'll mention it here first in case anyone might be interested.

On a side note, yesterday I received 9 bodies which are all routed, sealed and with bottom coats. All ready to play with! I'm hoping to come up with 9 unique designs to take back to the factory in a couple of weeks for assembly. I'll try to post pictures as they develop.
 
I would be VERY interested in a "in progress" prototype. A one-of-a-kind Hell Guitar? Hell yeah. Even (especially) if it's "imperfect" and/or beat to hell, whatever.

Just sayin.. :beer:
 
Ground Control to Major Syo... Dude, when can I buy one of your guitars? I have the (funny) money and it's burning a hole in my pocket.. can you (at least) help a brother out with some status updates? :rockya
 
bcdon said:
Ground Control to Major Syo... Dude, when can I buy one of your guitars? I have the (funny) money and it's burning a hole in my pocket.. can you (at least) help a brother out with some status updates? :rockya
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Hello Don. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I was away on business for a few days and didn't check in. I was just about to update my progress but of course you got here before me... :D

Unfortunately I can't say too much at the moment, but the guitar options are kind of, well... exploding. Rather than leave it at 4 styles and 3 colors each, I've kind of gone crazy with the custom option. And by crazy I sort actually mean it. I've been working on creating rather elaborate finishes often well into the early mornings. When I do go to bed I can't sleep because I'm thinking about what to do next (hence, crazy...). I've invested in some equipment to help me do the bodies here in Japan and then ship to the factory. My goal is to get the bodies done in a few weeks and take them personally to the factory in time to oversee the first production run. I'm extremely excited about where it's all going and hope to post some pics soon.

Regarding the hole in your pocket Don, which model were you interested in? I'll see if I have something suitable and available for you. But perhaps you might want to wait to at least see the new stuff that's coming? I'm sorry things have dragged on longer than expected (though I rather suspected they might). This whole process has been evolving in ways I didn't imagine originally. Now, things are falling together just where I hoped they would! :rockya
 
syo said:
Regarding the hole in your pocket Don, which model were you interested in? I'll see if I have something suitable and available for you. But perhaps you might want to wait to at least see the new stuff that's coming?
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Exciting times! I'm really not in that big of a hurry, I just wanted to light the fire a bit. :thumbsup I can't wait to see the results of all your hard work.. until then I'll just nag every so often. :dude
 
Well I just thought I'd put up a work in progress. This is my first test of doing graphics with silver leaf. I just pulled the mask off and cleaned it up a little but I will have to do some spot leafing here and there. You may notice that the pickguard and control plate look like they're just hanging there and that's because they are. The pickguard is a rough one from an earlier prototype. Not sure about the white but it's all I had at hand. It will need to be sealed with some clear coats for both looks and protection. As it is pure silver (well .9999) it will tarnish should moisture get to it so it needs to be sealed.

Please let me know what you think. The stars/fireworks were just a quick idea for a test. Kind of looks a little like a poor man's Zemaitis to me (wait, that would be a Greco...:D )

Here they are:

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/No2_SStars_proto2.jpg

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/No2_SStars_proto1.jpg

On other news, the first production run is underway. I'll be going back and forth to the factory to follow progress. I'm excited and nervous in equal measure. Small run for the first time...:running
 
syo said:
Well I just thought I'd put up a work in progress. This is my first test of doing graphics with silver leaf. I just pulled the mask off and cleaned it up a little but I will have to do some spot leafing here and there. You may notice that the pickguard and control plate look like they're just hanging there and that's because they are. The pickguard is a rough one from an earlier prototype. Not sure about the white but it's all I had at hand. It will need to be sealed with some clear coats for both looks and protection. As it is pure silver (well .9999) it will tarnish should moisture get to it so it needs to be sealed.

Please let me know what you think. The stars/fireworks were just a quick idea for a test. Kind of looks a little like a poor man's Zemaitis to me (wait, that would be a Greco...:D )

Here they are:



http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/No2_SStars_proto2.jpg

http://www.hellguitars.com/stuff/No2_SStars_proto1.jpg

On other news, the first production run is underway. I'll be going back and forth to the factory to follow progress. I'm excited and nervous in equal measure. Small run for the first time...:running
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It looks great. I have been lurking on this thread for awhile following the progress. Your so fortunate to be able to do this. I have a couple of questions. Any word on the latest pricing? What is the radius on the necks your using. what shape are they? I'm guessing a C? What guitars are included in your first run? I'm trying to decide between the semi-hollow body ( any new pictures?) and the one with 2 humbuckers that doesn't look similar to a Tele. Is that the Target. I get a little confused with all of the mock ups. The best of luck.
 
Honestly, I like them better with plain colors. Why is the pickguard so huge BTW, wouldn't it look nicer if smaller? Just my preference of course.
 
Mystrom said:
It looks great. I have been lurking on this thread for awhile following the progress. Your so fortunate to be able to do this. I have a couple of questions. Any word on the latest pricing? What is the radius on the necks your using. what shape are they? I'm guessing a C? What guitars are included in your first run? I'm trying to decide between the semi-hollow body ( any new pictures?) and the one with 2 humbuckers that doesn't look similar to a Tele. Is that the Target. I get a little confused with all of the mock ups. The best of luck.
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Hello Mystrom. Glad to have you following along. To answer your questions...

The radii for all of the models are currently 14". The necks are pretty standard C shape. I made these choices for 2 reasons. One is that it suits my personal style. The other is that since I am starting small I wanted to start first with a good all-rounder, which I believe the "C" with a 14" radius to be. I plan to offer some fatter necks and smaller radii in future. More success will mean more options available. I will be testing a 10" and 12" radius in my next order.

Regarding the semi-hollow model, unfortunately it is not part of the first production run. I am still tweaking things but I didn't want to hold up production for this one model. It will still be coming but delayed unfortunately. The other dual Humbucker is the "Bender". That will be coming with the first order. Pricing has been mentioned a few times earlier but I am also adding options which will vary the price. Hope to have the website up soon with all the current info.

deeaa said:
Honestly, I like them better with plain colors. Why is the pickguard so huge BTW, wouldn't it look nicer if smaller? Just my preference of course.
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Hello Dee. The plain colors are still available of course. Ever since I was a boy sitting in church, I had a desire to paint the plain walls with my own creations. Since church was interminably boring, I had lots of time to fantasize. I never did get to paint the walls but I did wind up making my living by drawing, painting and otherwise covering surfaces with my ideas. Can't be helped I'm afraid. It's my affliction. :D I have 18 more bodies waiting to be worked on and I'm sketching ideas in my sleep. Actually I started casually showing that silver star guitar around 2-3 days ago and received two offers to buy it on the spot. The reaction from a few trusted friends in the business has been very encouraging. Certainly not for everyone though I'm sure. Maybe I could interest you with one with a spookbox logo perhaps? ;)

Pickguard actually doesn't take up too much more square centimetrage than a standard tele guard. The contrast of the pearl white on black with silver really does pop though. As I said in the above post it was just thrown on as it was to hand. But actually the more I look at it, the more I like it.

Thanks for the comments Dee. One thing I'm fairly sure of is, if you ever do wind up with one of my guitars, it will (most likely) eventually get stripped down to its' skeleton, or the body will be replaced by a really good rock or something. I would certainly like to see what you come up with...:dude
 
As usual I was less wordy than I should (mobile surfing....), I really liked the _looks_ of the golden one with those rather intricate patterns, and most others are also aesthetically quite pleasing. But I meant, when buying a guitar, I don't like graphics or such...if I want something there, I'll add them myself rather. And from general marketing standpoint, I'd venture overall people would prefer guitars without graphics etc. however nice they were. Might be wrong too, but I think there's a market for 'adorned' guitars and one for plain ones, and the latter is probably much bigger.

I do really like the shape of the guitars. If I ever had one, I would definitely be tempted to reduce the pickguard size on this last one, though...or remove it :-)

On this one, I would leave the pickguard off from the lower horn...kinda like leave the top as it is, and make the bottom the top's inverted mirror image almost, so it'd form a nearly perfect oval stretched forwards on the top side and towards the control cavity on the bottom. Sorta like on a Music Man bass but tilted and bent to fit the guitar shape. I just feel that looks a bit too big and unnecessarily so, and also the sharp angles at the control area sort of take away from the general smoothness of the guitar shape.
 
deeaa said:
As usual I was less wordy than I should (mobile surfing....), I really liked the _looks_ of the golden one with those rather intricate patterns, and most others are also aesthetically quite pleasing. But I meant, when buying a guitar, I don't like graphics or such...if I want something there, I'll add them myself rather. And from general marketing standpoint, I'd venture overall people would prefer guitars without graphics etc. however nice they were. Might be wrong too, but I think there's a market for 'adorned' guitars and one for plain ones, and the latter is probably much bigger.

I do really like the shape of the guitars. If I ever had one, I would definitely be tempted to reduce the pickguard size on this last one, though...or remove it :-)

On this one, I would leave the pickguard off from the lower horn...kinda like leave the top as it is, and make the bottom the top's inverted mirror image almost, so it'd form a nearly perfect oval stretched forwards on the top side and towards the control cavity on the bottom. Sorta like on a Music Man bass but tilted and bent to fit the guitar shape. I just feel that looks a bit too big and unnecessarily so, and also the sharp angles at the control area sort of take away from the general smoothness of the guitar shape.
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Well, I agree with you Dee about there being a much larger market for "unadorned" guitars (off the subject, how is it that a guy from Finland writes English better than I do? :D). My motivation for doing the adorned guitars is primarily for my pleasure. I will not be mass producing them but doing them myself. That being said, I do hope some will find them worth having for their uniqueness and craft. Frankly, I find 90%+ guitars and guitar makers to be rather uninspiring. If I enjoy some success with this I intend to play around with things quite a bit. And I always figure if this whole venture tanks, at least I'll have more guitars than Spudman...:dude

As for the pickguard suggestion, perhaps I'll try a mock-up along the lines that you suggest. Actually I recently discovered that without the pickguard at all the guitar looks mean and sexy at the same time (or maybe I'm just projecting something...).
 
Okay, I assumed all the guitars would have special graphics/stuff on them. My bad :-) in that case, well, excellent work!

I usually think guitars look better sans pickguards. Even Les Pauls etc...but I guess on some, like Teles, it's so iconic it can't be left out. But a brand new shape might lend itself well to some unique pickguard shapes as well maybe.
 
Great progress syo... this has been a super-fun thread for sure.

I like the SStar model.. I'm not usually huge on a "busy" guitar finish, but the SStar is just so darn.. "cheerful".. :-)

I've decided what my dream Hell Guitars guitar would be.. .a Bender with a rosewood fretboard, the body finished only with 2 dozen coats of boiled linseed oil... all silver hardware.

So when I get my big record deal *cough cough* we can start talking endorsements. :poke
 
deeaa said:
Okay, I assumed all the guitars would have special graphics/stuff on them. My bad :-)
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Nah, no bad at all Dee. Actually I always preferred "plain" (but well done finishes) and never modded the cosmetic appearance of any of my guitars. But it's becoming like tattoos for me now. Doing one makes me want to do more. The idea of creating unique, one-offs really appeals to me. Of course the standard colors are there because I love them that way too but I really get off on spending time creating something unique. It's very satisfying indeed.
 
I really enjoy seeing you express yourself with your guitar finishes, Syo. I like all of them, to be honest. I'd have a hard time picking a favorite out of what you've posted so far, but that star design is pretty fantastic.

I'm very happy that you'll have some available for sale in the near future. I think I've kind of got my mind made up that my next guitar should be a Hell guitar. Of course, I may have to fight BCDon for the first one off the assembly line... ;-)
 

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