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Spudman said:
......What happens when I'm playing it when everyone is home is that I'll get a good loop going and I'll be riffing along to it with my head down, and then I'll look up and the girls are dancing to it. No smoke, no drunks and no seedy bar owner, just my very own groupies with their groove on. Kinda nice.:)
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Dang I'd be a god at our little porch jam sessions we do every so often. I'm gettin' one!
 
I was going to pm you Spud about a question I have but I figured to put it here so that other's may draw from your well spring of knowledge Master Spud.

EDITED: I apologize for bringing this up again after reading previous posts about it. RTFM eh! Anyway I will still leave my post up because I would like to address the bass guitar issue while using the looper......

Question: Well lemme say it this way. Using a loop pedal...do you run the loop pedal in line with your guitar as you would a regular effects pedal...into the same amp? If this is the case then how would the drum loops come out on the same amp if you happen to have a looper that incorporates drum loops? I guess my question is, wouldn't you have to run the amp clean?

With this in mind...what about looping bass guitar parts using the same clean guitar amp? Would that be too much for one amp to handle? What about recording guitar parts that are overdriven? I suppose you'd have to use an OD pedal for those parts right? All run through the same amp? Ideally I guess it would be better to run everything through a PA? Have I asked more than one question? haha

Ok your turn. :)
 
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Jeepers. Just go get one. Ha ha.:)

Yes you play all that through your amp. Now AMP can be whatever amplifies your sound so it's up to you. I've seen acoustic players using small PA heads and speakers to do it, and I've also seen videos of electric players doing what I do and that is playing it all through my guitar amp.

You may notice on the video links in this thread that nobody is playing loudly. No reason to. There is plenty of sound once you get a bunch of loops going. Check out the Boss web site for demos videos. Also, when players use a looper in a band situation, ala Trey Anastasio, there are no bass or drums being looped.

Since it seems like you still have questions I suggest that you go to a music store, get a guitar, a bass, a Loop Station, and a distortion box, set them beside you and go to work. See what you think. It's not that complicated.

Looping all these instruments is a great lesson in mixing. You have to play the instrument being looped at the level that you want it in the mix. There is no playing then grabbing a fader to change that instrument level. This is a really helpful lesson on learning to play in a band as well. You have to learn to blend.
 
Spudman said:
Jeepers. Just go get one. Ha ha.:)
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I will in November! GC says they're coming out then. I like buying locally. Meanwhile I picked up a Hot Head Distortion pedal to try out...figured it would give me more leeway than the Bad Monkey in the loop scenario in case I want more edge.

I understand about levels. Good point you made. I'm really interested in experimenting with the bass using the pedal and then layering some guitars over that with some drum in the background. We'll see. Hey why don't you do us a sample Spud so we can hear for ourselves. :) I'd like to see one of us around here do one.
 
tot_Ou_tard said:
I never expected Spudz to mention Trey!
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Sorry. It won't happen again. NOT. The guy is an amazingly good guitarist. Too bad his songwriting skill didn't survive past Phish.
 
There are plenty of Phish bootleg recordings around the web and their official recordings too usually have Trey doing some looping. He is a good artist to check out to see how to use a looper live. I believe he uses a Boomerang looper.
 
I agree Trey is a great guitarist! I had the honor of seeing him (Trey and Friends) live this past summer along with Phil Lesh and Friends, which he sat in on most of the tunes. Great show!
 
If you had a guitar with synth access, piezos, & magnetics you could be a freakin' symphony.

It looks like I'm gonna get a looper for Christmas. As a beginning gitfiddle abuser, with noone to play with, I need this so I can go in the basement and play with myself all night! :D
 
For some reason I thought you, ahem, did that already.:D LMAO

They sure are fun. I'm getting alot of ideas lately for how to use mine with a delay, A/B switch, percussion, etc. It's impossible to get a band gig in town these days but I can always do a solo thing with a looper. It's just a matter of working up some material.
 
if your getting the GAS from all this looper talk (as I have) you can find a FREE looping program for Windows to see if you really like loopers or not..or to hold you over till you buy a jamman..:)

Ambiloop actually works and has some nice features.. the usergroup for it is available here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ambiloop/

The Homepage is here: http://evenfall.com/ambiloop/index.html

Try it..it's free...
 
Anyone here tried both the Boss RC20-XL unit and the Digitech JamMan? I have narrowed it down to one or the other. Both get good reviews.

The JamMan costs a bit more. It has an undo feature which seems like a cool idea. It doesn't have reverse, but I am wondering how important that really is. I don't know why I would want to play my loops in reverse.
 
Robert said:
I don't know why I would want to play my loops in reverse.
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Dude, check out this groovy van. And then tell me again that you dont need reverse loops :D
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Robert said:
Anyone here tried both the Boss RC20-XL unit and the Digitech JamMan? I have narrowed it down to one or the other. Both get good reviews.

The JamMan costs a bit more. It has an undo feature which seems like a cool idea. It doesn't have reverse, but I am wondering how important that really is. I don't know why I would want to play my loops in reverse.
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Robert, the RC20-XL also has an undo feature.

So sez Boss:
http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=137
 
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Both pedals are going to work great. The edge may go to Boss because you can find used ones cheaper. The edge may go back to Digitech because grabbing the media card and popping it into your computer and downloading your loops is pretty cool.

Either way you'll love having the pedal and what you can do with it.
 
I'm interested in the added drum machine.

Warren, I find it hard to believe that there were 727 fretters named Warren before you! :p
 
tot_Ou_tard said:
Warren, I find it hard to believe that there were 727 fretters named Warren before you! :p
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nah....i just kept goofing up while signing up and i got it right on the 728th try!! ;) :D
 
tot_Ou_tard said:
Warren, I find it hard to believe that there were 727 fretters named Warren before you! :p
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Holy sh**! I blew chunks through my nose when I read this. Tot you have to do a stand up act sometime. Hilarious! :DR :D :R
 
Warren, looks like there's no USB or MIDI port so I'd imagine you just use the AUX input. Pretty low tech but I still want one!:D
 
Someone on the gear page said that Boomerang will be coming out with a new looper in a coupla' months. He got that info via email from someone at boomerang. No info on their website yet.

Spudz: I would do a stand up act, but I'm afraid of all the nose chunks blowing by!
 

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