Mayer's apology

[Ch0jin]

I believe it was "Sexual Napalm" (from watching TMZ)

I saw a TMZ guy ask Jessica about this and she laughed her butt off when they brought it up. I'd take that comment as a compliment if someone said that about me!

Anyway, I could care less what John Mayer says, I just chimed in for my previous "grass houses" joke

 

[oldguy]

Everyone says something stupid now and then. Sometimes they wish they could take it back, sometimes it comes out funny.
And some people are really good at doing it repeatedly.
If they don't learn from it or use discretion, they become known as a$$holes.

 

[Bloozcat]

Maybe I read his comments wrong, but it sounded like he was saying she's a sexual dynamo. That's hardly disparaging. :drool

Maybe it's a generational thing (I certainly hope not), but I was raised to be a gentleman. And gentlemen don't speak of such private intimacies as John Mayer does. Oh, I've certainly had acquaintances who have, and I've been in enough locker rooms to have heard it many times before, but it's still inexcusable. Just imagine if it was your daughter that Mayer was speaking about. Or maybe your sister or a good friend.

As to the free speech right, there has to be self regulation in the exercise of this right. In the classic example, is it OK to scream FIRE!, FIRE! in a crowded theater and then disavow any responsibility for those who are then trampled to death because of your actions?

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Blooz, that is a very interesting discussion that I spent almost a semester of law school studying. You bring up the classic example of cause for restriction of free speech. That discussion could get into politics I suppose. I would be happy to have a discussion about it off hook.


But beyond what is legal to say, there is the issue of what is right to say. As my Dad, always pointed out, just because an action is legal does not make it right. I am a big JM fan, and think he is better than these comments personally. I hope he learns and moves on.

 

[piebaldpython]

Maybe it's a generational thing (I certainly hope not), but I was raised to be a gentleman. And gentlemen don't speak of such private intimacies as John Mayer does. Oh, I've certainly had acquaintances who have, and I've been in enough locker rooms to have heard it many times before, but it's still inexcusable. Just imagine if it was your daughter that Mayer was speaking about. Or maybe your sister or a good friend.

Right, not the gentlemanly thing to do, I agree. That being said, I've been in enough gyms and bars to hear guys talk that kind of stuff. However, there's a HUGE difference between BS'g with 10 pals and saying stuff in a venue so that EVERYBODY knows what you think.

 

[Bloozcat]

Blooz, that is a very interesting discussion that I spent almost a semester of law school studying. You bring up the classic example of cause for restriction of free speech. That discussion could get into politics I suppose. I would be happy to have a discussion about it off hook.

But beyond what is legal to say, there is the issue of what is right to say. As my Dad, always pointed out, just because an action is legal does not make it right. I am a big JM fan, and think he is better than these comments personally. I hope he learns and moves on.

Ah, yes...Humanities Philosophy class...

What often gets lost in the discussion is the era in which the Constitution was written and the mores of the society then (hmmm...an anthopology discussion too!). Civility was a given expectation. They were gentleman and ladies then. Even the barbarity of war was conducted by gentlemanly rules. So, personal responsibility in the exercise of the first amendment was expected as well.

Perhaps John Mayer never had the benefit of having been taught the manners of a civil society. It doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad guy, just one who's a little uncouth. I hope he has a friend or someone he looks up to who cares enough about him to take him aside and speak to him about it. I don't dislike John Mayer - I don't even know him. But I do dislike some of his behaviors.

 

[Eric]

Wow SVL -- editing others' posts in the pursuit of perfect grammar?? You ARE hardcore!

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Wow SVL -- editing others' posts in the pursuit of perfect grammar?? You ARE hardcore!

LOL! No, not Blooz's, my typo!

 

[oldguy]

I think Mayer's a very talented guitarist. I really enjoyed his music when he moved toward the blues. He may never have the social skills to let his sense of discretion override his need for attention when being interviewed, then again, he may learn from his transgressions. You shouldn't talk trash about people you've been intimate with, or, as the old saying goes, "don't kiss and tell".
But to be honest, I like Joe B. more as a blues player, and I would be astounded to read such remarks by Joe in an interview. Mayer, I wasn't that surprised. Go figure.

 

[Bloozcat]

Well, I guess we can rule out a simple, unthinking, faux pas regarding John's recent comments.
http://wonderwall.msn.com/music/porn-company-offers-mayer-a-job-1538283.story/?gt1=28135

 

[FrankenFretter]

Well, I guess we can rule out a simple, unthinking, faux pas regarding John's recent comments.
http://wonderwall.msn.com/music/porn-company-offers-mayer-a-job-1538283.story/?gt1=28135

Now that is funny!