SVL's BYOC's v.2 Mouse

[sumitomo]

Very nice DVM and good playing too! Sumi

 

[sunvalleylaw]

I am sitting here listening again, and just licking my chops. I definitely am drawn to positions 1 (stock rat mode) and 2 (LED Distortion). Of the overdrive settings I am drawn first to the LED overdrive.

In the Ruetz mod, I like both Ruetz settings, and am struck by the organic, garage sound of the LED Overdrive with the Ruetz mode on. It sounds raw and fun. Can't wait!

 

[sunvalleylaw]

It's here!!

Arrived today, boxed very, very well, in first rate condition. Thanks Bob! Yardwork to do now, and play later. Will report back someday after getting to know it. :rockon: :R R :AOK:

 

[Katastrophe]

Boy, you have more will power than I do. On New Pedal Day ( or new guitar, amph, whatever guitar related day ), everything is secondary with the exception of immediate family needs.

Congrats, and post a clip!:bravo: :beer:

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Boy, you have more will power than I do. On New Pedal Day ( or new guitar, amph, whatever guitar related day ), everything is secondary with the exception of immediate family needs.

Congrats, and post a clip!:bravo: :beer:

EDIT: Thanks Kat for the congrats. I am very happy with the new pedal. Well, my poor wife has tweaked her lower back/leg and is in the middle of a way overdue yard project that she now cannot do, so it is just about an immediate family need. But I did have some time to do some initial playing around, and will post a clip after getting a bit comfortable with the various settings. So far I am in absolute love with the red LED Distortion setting, with the stock Rat mode not far behind. That is as far as I have gotten into it so far. My DS-1 may still have a place for a different sound, but this is so much more full sounding. Don't worry, clips will come.

 

[Spudman]

I heard a bit of this pedal over the phone and I was very impressed. Great job Voodoo.

 

[Tone2TheBone]

You guys do phone demos? Cool how do I subscribe to this???

 

[Katastrophe]

I sure didn't get a memo that there was a conference call!

 

[duhvoodooman]

Sheesh!! Ya'd think that they'd let the pedal builder know that there was going to be a live demo teleconference!! :flamemad:

 

[Spudman]

Sheesh!! Ya'd think that they'd let the pedal builder know that there was going to be a live demo teleconference!! :flamemad:

You guys haven't signed up yet.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Pic

No clips yet, too much yardwork this weekend to spend playing time setting up the recording stuff, but here is a pic.

That is a fun looking distortion chain, but the DS-1 may take a break for a while, after I am done comparing it with my new Rabid Rodent. This thing rocks! You will NOT be disappointed if you order one. :AOK: :rockon:

 

[sunvalleylaw]

I just spent a few minutes learning about the red LED overdrive mode. It gives me a sweet, slightly distorted overdrive that gives a good Mayer sound. (at least for me, doesn't improve the playing, but makes the tone that much better) Loving it!

 

[tot_Ou_tard]

It's here!!

Arrived today, boxed very, very well, in first rate condition. Thanks Bob! Yardwork to do now, and play later. Will report back someday after getting to know it. :rockon: :R R :AOK:

What no video of you taking it out of the box?!?

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Review

Ok here is my attempt at a review. First, caveats. Someone who is a better player than I currently am could review this pedal better. I still do not know how to use distortion that effectively rhythm playing. I prefer to use it when lead playing, when I want an edge on the tone to cut through. I do not control my strings well enough with palm and other muting techniques to use this pedal to its potential yet in rhythm playing. (I am writing all this because I am going to post some clips later in this thread. :rotflmao: ) Ok, enough of that.

That said, this pedal DVM made me seems very diverse, and could be used in about a hundred ways or more. First, the clips. I recorded both my guitars, the Vik and the Strat, playing open E chords, followed by a little lick. I did this first with my Boss DS-1 for comparison, then on each "mutation" setting available. 3 distortion, 3 overdrive, as described by DVM above. I set the DS-1 as I typically do, with tone at 10, level straight up, and distortion at 2. I set the Rodent with Volume straight up, Filter at neutral, (which happens to be at 3 the way the pot is laid out), and Distortion at about 1:30 or 2. I turned down the recording level on both Red LED mutations because both those settings are louder and were maxing out the recording levels too much. I did not record the Reutz mod settings, as I have not used those much yet. DVM did record those settings above.

http://www.box.net/shared/5cyypgufu1 - Strat clips

http://www.box.net/shared/yhznmtllfk - Vik clips


Ok, review.

1. Fit, finish, etc. Excellent. Came well boxed, beautiful paint, knobs all work well, etc. I know nothing of pedal building and soldering etc., but the pics DVM posted above tell the story. Excellent all the way through, as you would expect from DVM.

2. How does it work? Well, let your ears be the guide but I think exceptionally well, and I have only scratched the surface. I would love to hear Spud or someone really rip it up with one.

I recorded the DS-1 to show you why I was interested in a new distortion pedal. When you listen, you might think "Yeah, that sounds pretty good" but I think it lacks depth and texture. It is like a hoppy ale that is so hoppy, you cannot get any depth or texture out of the flavors. All heat and no warmth, if that makes sense. Too thin and hissy, and not enough mid range might be another way of saying it.

Ok, now listen to the Rodent clips. The first three are the distortion settings in order. I like all three, but have been in love with the second, red LED one. It is so fat and warm. As I recorded this, I realized I had been overlooking the third setting as well and wish to explore that one. It seems to have some great sounds, and I really liked all the texture in the E chord with that setting.

The overdrive settings are fun as well. Set up just like this, they act more like distortion settings to my ear, but if you roll back the distortion to say 9 or 10, you get a sweet overdrive that is much more transparent and less warm and mid-rangey as compared to my bad monkey. A little more heat and a little less mid range I would say. A useful new sound for my arsenal.

I plan on using the distortion settings when rocking out or punking out, and also as a good lead boost with some great hair to cut through a loud mix, or when I just need to add some oomph. (EDIT)Anything from Social Distortion and Weezer or Offspring to Santana and Allman Brothers and Petty, and everything in between. I think you could dial in a reasonable Abbey Road - I Want You sound too by cleaning it up a touch. (end EDIT)

The overdrives I think I will use with the distortion dialed back as I said for a different overdrive sound.

In anycase, I think all of the six settings give me more interesting sounds than my un-modded DS-1. I may mod my DS-1 to give it more oomph. There are lots of mods out there, but it would not have the versatility of this pedal, and I may leave the DS-1 stock and use it with my chorus for some Nirvana sounds. It does that well. For everything else, I think the Rodent has it covered. Please feel free to comment, and DVM, please add anything you think I left out. I really like this pedal. Two thumbs up, :AOK: :AOK: , I would highly recommend it.

Blazes, hope that answers your questions, and if I can answer any others, please ask and I will do my best to answer them.

 

[warren0728]

excellent review steve....the clips really help....makes me want to order a few more dvm pedals and i haven't even got my first one yet!

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Thanks Warren. One thing I wanted to add. Listen to the sustain. The DS-1 has sustain too, but there is just more in the sustained note from the Rodent. It almost eggs you on to hold the note just a bit longer rather than end it. Chords too. Anyway that is the way it makes me feel.

 

[warren0728]

Thanks Warren. One thing I wanted to add. Listen to the sustain. The DS-1 has sustain too, but there is just more in the sustained note from the Rodent. It almost eggs you on to hold the note just a bit longer rather than end it. Chords too. Anyway that is the way it makes me feel.

i thought dvm's sounded better than the ds-1 overall too....i liked some of the settings better than others but all definitely sounded usable!

 

[sunvalleylaw]

i thought dvm's sounded better than the ds-1 overall too....i liked some of the settings better than others but all definitely sounded usable!

Curious as to which ones you liked over others. Just to see what someone else hears. Let me know if you don't mind.

 

[warren0728]

Curious as to which ones you liked over others. Just to see what someone else hears. Let me know if you don't mind.

ok....i'll have to go back and relisten and take notes! i liked the vik better than the strat....

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Ahem, you mean strat sir! :AOK:


I personally like both, for different reasons, but there certainly is a lot to explore with the combination of the Vik and this pedal for sure.

 

[warren0728]

Ahem, you mean strat sir! :AOK:


I personally like both, for different reasons, but there certainly is a lot to explore with the combination of the Vik and this pedal for sure.

oops....i edited it.... :thwap:

 

[Blaze]

Yes sir ,

Nice review Sun.. ,thanks to you for these demos recording ,appreciate that.I liked the comparison with the Ds 1 and the fact that you tried every byoc setting .

Tell me , would you say that with this pedal settings & adjustments you can create your own personnal tone.

I ll have some hearings of these demos and a discussion with the accountant of my low value canadian money (ha,ha ) and take my decision.

Awesome job , thanks again..

Blazes:AOK:

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Yes, I definitely think that one can many personal tones. I can think of one or two on the distortion side, and have already found one on the overdrive side I like a great deal that is new and different from the tones I used previously.

For consistency, I had the pedal set the same on every test clip, but each one could be varied a great deal. So far, the tone (filter) knob has been set to near neutral, but I could see getting a low, power chordy tone that just snarls for grungey/punky stuff, and one with more highs and bite for a different sound. Like I said, very versatile, and someone who really knew what they were doing could get much more out of it.

I aim to as I learn more. :AOK:

 

[Blaze]

I guess you ve tried the pedal on the clean channel of your peavy ,isn t .

Sometimes i play distortion or overdrive over the distortion channel of my amp , makes it compress and get some super sound variation rollin down the volume or the tone of the guitar ,same thing changing setting on the pedal obviously.
Nothing new there , but interesting .

Take care

Blazes:dude:

 

[sunvalleylaw]

I will try that! I never think of using pedals on my dirt channel. Oh, and I edited my original review with a couple more thoughts on sounds available.

 

[oldguy]

Sounds good, Sun!:AOK:
Nice that you gave the review and clips, and the clips having each setting.
Has a nice, full, round sound to my ears.:beer:

(I just gave another listen..... I think I like the Viking clips best also.)

 

[duhvoodooman]

Nice job, Steve! Enjoyed the clips, esp. with the Viking. The Rodent sounds good with single coils, but I think it really shines with humbucker guitars, where that singing sustain really stands out. Just wish you'd played a bit longer on each setting--your playing is better than than you think!

Agree 100% with your assessment of the DS-1. Certainly has some useful tones, but I find it's stock sound rather thin and strident. You can see why there are such a variety of popular DS-1 mods out there!

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Ok, here is another clip demoing the red LED setting some more, and showing the Ruetz mod. Listen only if you don't mind listening to the Zep riff I have just been learning with my son, played like you hear it played at Guitar Center on Friday night. :rotflmao: But if you ingnore that (the clip is really just supposed to let people hear the pedal), you can hear some more of the versatility of this pedal.

http://www.box.net/shared/oofay2lrk6

The first section of the clip is the Red LED setting, volume about straight up, Distortion straight up, filter just past 3 as before. I record the riff a few times, then play a coupla power chords. The second portion is exactly the same (except for a volume adjust, it now is at about 3 to account for volume difference between the mode settings), but with the Ruetz mod flipped on. That backs of the distortion and pumps up the mid range for a much warmer sound. Last, I repeat again, also with the Ruetz mod, but now turning up the distortion a bit. Distortion is now at about 1:30 or 2. I like this setting the best for this riff I think, and may pump up the distortion a bit more, but keeping the midrange up. The guitar is the Vik,after I re-attached the input jack after I loosened it stepping on my own chord. :thwap:


I hope that gives someone some more insight.

 

[Algonquin]

I can see the DS-1 gathering a bit of dust for a while I think.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Yeah it might be. I am not going to get rid of it. It still gives me some grungey sounds I like in combination with my chorus pedal. But the rodent does a lot more. BTW, I had it wrong how the Ruetz mod works. Really, it actually flattens out the hump in the high-mids that the Rat circuit has and makes the bass and lower mids come forward, giving that warmer, fuller tone. I had said before that it gave bumped up the midrange, which is not quite accurate.