What Strat would you buy?

[Robert]

If you would buy a new great Strat, which one would you get? MIM, MIA, a Squier, any higher end clones out there, etc.

I know I'd like to have a Suhr, but suhr enough, I can't afford it.

It seems the MIM is the best value, am I right?

 

[Katastrophe]

I dunno, Robert, there is alot of "bang for the buck" with a MIM... But those Special Edition Squiers that Spuds has posted look pretty darn good for the price!

I believe the Hwy 1 Strat to be a relatively decent value for a 'Merican made Strat, and I happen to like the thinner finishes.

The best, absolute best Strat I have ever played was a Lite Ash Strat, with Seymour duncan pups, birdseye maple neck and fretboard and a natural finish, and black pickguard, pup covers and knobs. I don't know if it was that particular guitar, the tube amph I was playing through or what, but that guitar felt great in my hands. Swamp ash = tone, and you can't go wrong with SD pups. The neck felt more substantial than a garden variety MIM, but it still felt good and comfortable. They were $599.00 back then (they're $629.00 USD at the 'Friend now), and I just didn't have the money to afford it at the time (and, unfortunately, still don't now).

Here's what the Lite Ash Strat looks like... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/product/images/page=1/base_pid=511337

I also want to try the Deluxe Player's Strat. It's an MIM model, but with a flatter fretboard radius and a different pup switching system. Those Strats make me drool...

Since you have an SX bass, I saw this over at Rondo's site, and I think it looks pretty good. With a black prewired pickguard from GFS, it could be a poor man's Lite Ash Strat (except the ash probably isn't swamp ash and the neck and fretboard are flame maple instead of birdseye), and it even comes with a case for $169.00 USD! http://www.rondomusic.net/sstltd2.html (standard disclaimers about not working with, or being any way affiliated with Rondo apply)

So, I guess the answer to your question, my friend, is if I had the money, one of each, please... :R R

 

[duhvoodooman]

That MIM 60th anniversary Strat looks like an awfully good deal at $500. Also a bit of a "collectibility" factor there, too. I'd want to try before I'd buy, but if I were in the market for a mid-priced Strat, that's the one I'd check out first....

 

[Guitar-Chris]

It seems the MIM is the best value, am I right?

If you decide for it, pay attention that you get the new 2006 model. It has medium jumbo frets instead of the small vintage ones, a heavier tremolo block (more sunstain) and comes with a fender gigbag.

You see the differences on the blue sticker on the guitar which says New Model!

 

[Robert]

That MIM 60th anniversary Strat looks mighty sexy. When I buy myself a strat, this time I'll go with a Fender (or else a higher end brand). I want to treat myself to a guitar with overall great quality. Squiers, SX and so on, they are fantastic for the price, but you do get cheap mechanics, etc. I don't mind having several low end nice guitars, but one or two that is a bit higher quality is something I think I need. (don't tell my wife I said that).

I really want a tremolo I can use that also stays in tune. I'm suspicious about the cheap guitars here - although I could always swap the bridge out, but then the overall price goes up... oh well, we'll see.

Right now, I'm eyeing the MIM 60th anniversary Strat the hardest.

 

[Nelskie]

The "little" things . . .

Right now, I'm eyeing the MIM 60th anniversary Strat the hardest.

I think with all of the "nuances" between Stratocaster models (and that includes copies / knock-offs), it would really bide well for you to be able to go someplace and actually play what you're considering buying. The reason I say this is that I was in the exact same sitaution as you are in now last year - I wanted a decent Strat, and was willing to cough up some dough. Well, after playing over a dozen or so Strats (just Fender stuff, and a lot of USA-made models) I finally settled on a MIM Classic 60's 3TS. The big selling point on that guitar: the neck! Yeah, out of all the guitars I played, the neck on this one was just right - a little bit on the chunky side, but not unmanageable at all. It was beautifully finished, tinted maple neck with a rosewood fretboard. Frets were perfect. Tuners stayed in tune, too. I have since dropped some very nice Fender Custom '69 p'ups in it, as well as a Callaham trem block, and I would have to say right now, it may be the best Strat I've ever played. True, with those mods, I might now be approaching that USA-made price. But I think for me, it's the right guitar. Yes, I do love my MIJ Squier Strat, and am very pleased with its overall sound and quality. However, my new Strat is an entirely different animal. Crazy how two supposedly "similar" guitars are so totally different, which is my case and point.

 

[jpfeifer]

Hi Robert,

Good question. There certainly are a ton of varieties of Strats out there these days. Honestly, I have not tried most of them.

I think that it depends on what kind of features you want. I have the Eric Clapton Strat and I gotta say that it is one of the best Strats that I've ever played. It's a very solid feeling guitar due to the chunky 50's style V-shaped neck. It also has a very useful mid-boost wired into one of the tone controls. It works great for putting a little extra fattness into the tone when you want that. It would definitely get another strat with the V-neck shape in the future. It's really nice for bending and seems to give it a better overal tone. However, the Clapton Strat has the tiny vintage style frets which I'm not crazy about. But I've grown used to them. I'd really like to try out the Eric Johnson Strat, because I think that it would have even better features for getting good overall tone and feel. The only thing is that it has the older vintage style pickups, so it won't be the most noise-free, however it probably has excellent tone.

-- Jim

 

[Katastrophe]

The cool thing that Fender has done with their line is make a guitar that will fit just about everyone. There is a Strat out there that will fit just about anyone, from signature guitars from just about every genre of music to basic models that cover the whole range of what people look for in a guitar. And if that doesn't work, the parts are easily interchangeable to the point of relatively easily being able to build a complete custom from the ground up from parts off of the internet.

Leo Fender was a true genius.

 

[Bloozcat]

Personally, I'd get a MIM Jimmy Vaughan Strat. It has a soft V neck profile that I find very comfortable to play, the body is alder, the hardware is all vintage type American made, complete with a steel tremolo block in the bridge. All the parts for the guitar are made in America then shipped to Ensenada for fitting, assembly and painting.

The guitar is wired with the middle pickup tone control switched to the bridge which I prefer, and have done to all of the Strat clones I've assembled for myself. It comes standard with the very playable Tex-Mex pickups.

It's like getting the best of both worlds - basically an American Strat that is assembled and finished with lower cost Mexican labor. It's the one Fender Strat that I just plain like right off the shelf.

 

[blogan]

The best, absolute best Strat I have ever played was a Lite Ash Strat, with Seymour duncan pups, birdseye maple neck and fretboard and a natural finish, and black pickguard, pup covers and knobs. I don't know if it was that particular guitar, the tube amph I was playing through or what, but that guitar felt great in my hands. Swamp ash = tone, and you can't go wrong with SD pups. The neck felt more substantial than a garden variety MIM, but it still felt good and comfortable.

I just read something interesting about the Lite Ash Strat and Tele over at TDPRI:

I don't believe that is the case with the Lite Ash Tele...the neck is made with a full maple base thru to the 22nd fret....no 22nd fret overhang. The neck pocket is longer on the body, thus the pickguard has a neck pocket cut out deeper. Both the Lite Ash Tele and Strats are built this way, I believe, to prevent mixing-&-matching with US/Mex products....

That's great until you want to swap the neck. Warmoth has a list of known incompatible guitars (bottom of the page) with this issue. Interestingly, the list doesn't include the Lite Ash guitars. I couldn't find 22-fret necks with no overhang at Musikraft of USACG, either.

 

[Katastrophe]

It may be true that the neck pocket in the Lite Ash Strat is longer... The guitar is made in Korea for Fender... If the neck were to break or warp, I guess the alternatives would be to search for a new neck from Fender, or go to the 'bay...

 

[Tone2TheBone]

My vote goes for the Eric Johnson signature Strat. White blonde maple...woo hoo (other assorted colors available too). 2 piece Alder body with a thin coating of Nitro finish for sweet tone. V shape neck (neck is also nitro finished)...12" radius fingerboard. Comes with staggered vintage tuners that supposedly eliminate the need for string trees (which would will help a smoother trem operation). The Fender website says that theres no paint between the base plate and the block which would also make for an even sweeter tone...and Eric is full of tone.

 

[Guitar-Chris]

My vote goes for the Eric Johnson signature Strat.

Definitely a very nice guitar, but, the point where the neck goes into the headstock is very, very thin because the headstock is much thinner so in combination with the staggered tuners they need no string trees.

I would be afraid of breaking it.

 

[Tone2TheBone]

GC - Thats something I've never noticed. I wonder if Eric's other Strats are like that. You could put another neck on there if you wanted to...then again you could get someone to do a nitro finish on a body and build your own Strat if you went to that much trouble to replace a neck. Maybe a homemade Strat would be cool who knows.

 

[Spudman]

It may be true that the neck pocket in the Lite Ash Strat is longer... The guitar is made in Korea for Fender... If the neck were to break or warp, I guess the alternatives would be to search for a new neck from Fender, or go to the 'bay...

I had a Lite ash Strat and kept it only a few weeks. The neck was awesome and so comfortable to play, but the sound just wasn't there. The new Squiers I have sound better and have more sustain.
The Lite Ash Tele is a different story, but I guess we're talking Strats here.

 

[Spudman]

Here is another option. Carl's Custom Guitars. Great prices and features. If you want an authentic Fend*r decal he has those too.
http://stores.ebay.com/Carls-Custom-Guitars

 

[Guitar-Chris]

GC - Thats something I've never noticed. I wonder if Eric's other Strats are like that.

Perhaps this "feature" isn't a problem at all. Sure it isn't.

But I'm sure: If I ever own this guitar it will break at the headstock, even if this is the only time in 1000 guitars.

 

[tremoloman]

If I had some spare cash, I'd snag a 60th Anniversary MIM and refinish it in either shell pink or seafoam green. That guitar's neck feels just as good as my MIA Am. Dlx model. Super sweet sound to boot!

 

[ZoSo65]

As, tone2thebone mentioned the v shape neck on the EJ Strat. Some added info on it,,it also changes from a v to a modern c shape as it gets closer to the heel.
Oh yeah, it has directional frets that are highly polished as well, and a bone nut.

 

[ted s]

Maybe a dumb question here, how do you know if it's MIM or MIA ?

 

[Guitar-Chris]

Maybe a dumb question here, how do you know if it's MIM or MIA ?

Normally, if it is MIM, the writing on the headsock says: Made in Mexico.

There are also different features (for example different tremolo), but to know all the differences, you have to be a real Fender expert. I'm not that kind of expert. The fender.com webpage has a lot of information about the actual models.

 

[ted s]

Thanks Christian, I wasn't sure if it was that evident or not. Wifey-poo says for my 40th. to pick a new guitar, so I am thinking Strat. Maybe I should go for the gusto and get a MIA ?

 

[Guitar-Chris]

Thanks Christian, I wasn't sure if it was that evident or not. Wifey-poo says for my 40th. to pick a new guitar, so I am thinking Strat. Maybe I should go for the gusto and get a MIA ?

If you've got the money, do it:R

Perhaps have a look at the different models at the fender homepage. They vary in neckform (they have the form of a D, a C, or a V all seen as if the neck was cut), the tremolo (american standard with 2 srews/posts or vintage with 6 screws) and the electric curcuit, the frets, and so on.

For myself, i like the 50s models with a maple neck.

 

[Katastrophe]

Right now, the classic lines of the 50's Strat in Oly White or Daphne Blue are really grabbing my attention.

 

[Iago]

Welcome Ted!

There are some ways.. checking the serial number would be one of them. what I do is just check pics and specifications of the guitars on the Fender website a lot, so you can reconize a MIA from a MIM from afar, since they all have differences from series to series.

If I had high dollar I would get a:

-Custom LTD 1955 strat
-some 60`s Custom
-Eric Johnson strat (maybe..really need to play it first, I never hear comments about the sound itself, just about how cool it is)
-John Mayer strat (heard good things)
-50`s or 60`s classic series

 

[Cranium]

I find it best to buy a cheap strat like the MIM and replace parts, much cheaper then buying a signature model or such.

 

[Guitar-Chris]

I find it best to buy a cheap strat like the MIM and replace parts, much cheaper then buying a signature model or such.

I would go further: A MIM Strat isn't that bad that you have to change anything. I thing it's agood guitar right out of the stock. Only if you like a special pickup-sound you have to change them. But in my opinion not fr quality purposes.

 

[Cranium]

Im just saying, its better to buy a 350$ standard MIM strat and replace the pickups for like 150$ (depends if you even use the middle pickup, I would just buy 2 so it would be more like 120$) so overall it would be 480-500$, I think thats better then buying a highway1 strat for example, it has better pickups and the neck is 22 frets and its made in USA, but its like 630$ so you get the same guitar but with better pickups (after replacement) and you only lose that one fret which is completely useless and doesn't affect you at all and considering the tax is higher due to the higher price you save about 150$, not such a big deal if you have extra money to spend but it makes you feel better that you saved and you got the pickups of your choice at that, it would cost about 750 if you bought the hwy1 and replaced the pups.

 

[Guitar-Chris]

Cranium, i didn't want to go in opposition. I'm the same opinion than you. I just wanted to make shure nobody thinks, he have to change pickups before playing on a MIM Strat. In My Opinion, most of the more expensive guitars cost to much. Look at the videos of Robert with his almost cheap guitars: He has a great tone.

 

[Cranium]

Yea but he did put the custom shop 54' pups on his squire strat, the 51' is completely stock though and it sounds real nice, pickups are a preference not a must (I regret wasting money replacing pickups on my ibanez guitar and I don't even like the sound of the new pickup(s) that much, lol)