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Why Did So Many People Leave The Washburn Forum

Good question and let's just say that nobody wants to burn any bridges (:rotflmao: ). That being said, I think it speaks VOLUMES for how THIS forum is run/operated that a slew of us came over here for our FIX. Not that I left Washburn Acoustic; I just haven't visited in a while. :bravo:
Also, I went to the DARKSIDE (electric) and I had quesitons about amps, pedals, modellers, etc. I never imagined that I would get the FABULOUS education that I have received over the past couple of months. OMG, the wealth of info here is AMAZING, given freely with a wonderful sense of camraderie. Just gotta say that you all ROCK!!!
 
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TheFret's grown, for sure. Here's a quote from Tim, dated Aug 4th, 2006, in a thread I'd started.

"Good to hear from you again Oldguy. When you have a bunch of fine guys running a fabulous web forum, your going to keep hearing wonderful things said about it. Did anybody mention this site has at the present time 1,128 – threads: 11,628 posts: 152 members of which 65 are active? This is a fine web site in deed."

152 members of which 65 are active

:bravo: :rotflmao: :bravo:
 
Robert said:
Don't take this the wrong way - just curious why so many people gave up on the Washburn forum?

Resources man. They probably were running out of GAS and we have plenty around here. We are the Iraq of the Internet guitar forums.
 
Robert said:
Ted - of course! TheFret.Net is here to take over THE WORLD! :D

Well Shiner has the same plan with his Karen Carpenter gang and that is probably the closest competition.

Regarding your question, I came over because I grew tired of the conversation. Mostly because I was redirecting my attention from acoustic to electric and wasn't thrilled with the electric section over there. In addition to wanting to have a more open discussion about other makes of guitars.

I went to Dolphin Street based on a recommendation I received from Guitar Gal and found my way here a few days later.

There was some infighting that discouraged me, but it was finally the mod that was picked or begged for the position. I don't have a problem with active members being mods, but when they censor, delete opinion and make rules as they go, that sucks.

The one or two issues (probably an overstatement) I've had here were addressed by PM and were very professional. That would not happen at the "W".

After I came here I invited some of the others and then they invited some more and...:bravo:

Not only is this a good forum, with good people, but it is always looking to find ways to make it better:AOK:
 
I joined the Fret.net so I could chat with the cute Swedish guy with the massive veins in his arms........:rockon:

GG
 
Interesting. I'm not naturally a "net guy" but I was guessing some sense of dissatisfaction among the Washouts that led them here. I've seen a similar scenario in a couple of cases with other forums.
 
I guess different people see it different ways but for me it was four issues:

1.) Washburn is a terribly dishonest company and demands that forum members either help with the cover up, stay quiet or be kicked off the forum. I've got a big mouth and hold honesty above all. It gets tiresome being kicked off then having to promise to "keep it positive" and "promote the company" (Washburn mantras) to get my screen name back (3600+ posts).

2.) Less than honest and less than knowledgeable dealers have been operating there with impunity. Giving out incorrect technical info, cheating & misleading customers and fighting with anybody who speaks up (usually me LOL). To make it worse, Washburn protects them fiercely.

3.) The new "moderator" is a brain dead ass kisser who would happily kick a new player in the balls if it pleased Daddy Washburn. Also, a lot of times if a post disagreed with something he posted or wasn't in the best interest of his friends it would be deleted or edited. I also wasn't particularly fond of him sharing peoples personal info with other members. LOL I ain't kidding. Blanket emails, posting peoples names.......

4.) And the big one - the people. Several months ago it became pretty obvious that the main draw for me (the people) would be moving here. My loyalty isn't, and never was, with Washburn so it was a no-brainer.
 
I would say it seemed like some folks were kicking the sand at each other and then the mod just kicked the sand out of the sandbox: there ain't no more sand to wallow in, so time to find a new box to play in.:thwap:
 
people are not the only entities that get cancer...

it's not hard to look at where you are, then look at something that is healthy, vibrant, and nurturing, and realize that you would rather be a part of something that furthers our ultimate goal... to be better players.

i am going to learn to play the heck out of my guitars, one day at a time. i would like the best environment possible to guide me to that goal.

[o, and the people here are awesome ;) ]

edit: hey, Rockette! love your avatar. :)

:rockon: :dude: :pancake:
 
Guitar Gal said:
I joined the Fret.net so I could chat with the cute Swedish guy with the massive veins in his arms........:rockon:

GG

You got me with that one too. Thanks for the laugh.
 
just strum said:
Hello Rockette, I've seen you logged on and I was hoping you would post. Hope you stick around.
Busy, busy. Rocket may be back home this weekend so I'm cleaning up my mess(es). I'll pop in & out.
 
:rotflmao: GG :AOK: :rotflmao:

I think we all are interested in having some sense of why y'all seemed so dissatisfied. Thanks Dreadman et al for the honest discussion.

Company controlled forums can be tricky. Wide open forums can also have their issues.

The feel of a place comes down to the inhabitants. The inhabitants with the most influence (& hence greatest responsibility) are the moderators.

We're lucky here on all counts. I am extremely happy that there has been no change in the tenor of the Fret even with the great influx of people. That has as much to do with the recent immigrants as it does with the Fret itself.

...excuse me while I get a kleenix (I'm tearing up) :D ;) :D
 
I think company forums are a bad idea. Now fans of a company making their own forum probably works better. I used to participate in a fly rod company's forum and the same stuff happened there but the mod there was trying his best to keep everyone happy but it's a hard job to do when you've got people passionate about the product. A lot of bad feelings went around when the company downsized their production team and a lot of forum members voiced their opinions on that. The company is run sorta like how Gibson is run. Anyway cheers to you guys that have come and have participated here. I can learn a great deal from YOU too.
 
I'm a memeber and moderator from Guitarnotes. I can understand the way a corporate forum might be, and get it why so many have landed here from such. My story is a bit different; the forums over at G/N are pretty slow right now, and there is one moderator in particular there that is entirely overbearing. It's an otherwise good place, but this group seems a lot like what I want to be a part of. So, for whatever reason anyone lands here, what had been started will grow bigger but stay what you made it, IMHO. Real good people here.:AOK:
 
moon said:
So, for whatever reason anyone lands here, what had been started will grow bigger but stay what you made it, IMHO. Real good people here.:AOK:

Did we mention haircuts and clean socks are mandatory here? :D
 
Spudman said:
Did we mention haircuts and clean socks are mandatory here? :D

Ok, ok, I'll cut my hair and wash my socks. But you didn't say anything about taking a shower!:AOK:
 
luvmyshiner said:
Ok, ok, I'll cut my hair and wash my socks. But you didn't say anything about taking a shower!:AOK:



Not me im going to run around here long haired and barefoot until somebody catches me and shows me the door!!!

Catch me if ya can:wave: :bootyshake:
 
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