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Question for those Agile owners out there: for the neck heel on Les-Paul-esque guitars, does the body always extend down below the end of the neck heel at the neck joint?

I've felt in the past that this is what made the guitar so girthful, but having never owned a Gibson, I'm not sure if that's how Les Pauls are typically constructed. Just curious, since this seems to be a popular collection of Agile owners.
 
Agile AL3100

I think the big neck on my Agile 3100 contributes to the big sound it produces. You can feel this guitar resonate very pronouncedly even in the neck. I have noticed this in other heavy necked guitars as well - better tone.
 
Eric said:
Question for those Agile owners out there: for the neck heel on Les-Paul-esque guitars, does the body always extend down below the end of the neck heel at the neck joint?

I've felt in the past that this is what made the guitar so girthful, but having never owned a Gibson, I'm not sure if that's how Les Pauls are typically constructed. Just curious, since this seems to be a popular collection of Agile owners.

On my Epi Tribute, it does. Probably the same for a "Genuine" Gibby.
 
Eric said:
Question for those Agile owners out there: for the neck heel on Les-Paul-esque guitars, does the body always extend down below the end of the neck heel at the neck joint.

Yes, except for the neck-through models.
 
Eric said:
Question for those Agile owners out there: for the neck heel on Les-Paul-esque guitars, does the body always extend down below the end of the neck heel at the neck joint?

I've felt in the past that this is what made the guitar so girthful, but having never owned a Gibson, I'm not sure if that's how Les Pauls are typically constructed. Just curious, since this seems to be a popular collection of Agile owners.

The standard Agile set neck is as you describe, just like an actual LP.

Here's a couple of pics of the Agile neck-thru design. BTW, both have the 5-piece walnut/maple neck that shows through on the sunburst model:
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Cool. Thanks for the info, fretters!

Now Duffy, about those pictures....
 
Agile V.S. EPI what would you say are the differences what is similar.
The pros & cons of each?

Does the Agile even slightly hold its own against the Gibby or Hertiage?
 
MAXIFUNK said:
Agile V.S. EPI what would you say are the differences what is similar.
The pros & cons of each?

Does the Agile even slightly hold its own against the Gibby or Hertiage?

I have a thread on my experiences with my Agile and my Epi Tribute LP.

And Duffy; Here's a link to the Rondo Blackout kit that I used on my AL3000. Super easy transformation!
 
Pictures

Have not forgotten about pictures of the Agile cherry burst and the Egnater Tweaker that is already set up at bedside for leisurely tweaking. My HH superstrat SZ300 Ibanez goldtop with duncan/ibanez pickups sounds really great with smooth, full, overdrive. Glad I got this amp, cabpable of clean all the way thru super high gain overdrive without even using a pedal. Like today when I was hammering my SZ300 getting some super overdriven tone and I noticed that my RV7 reverb and bad monkey weren't even turned on. Awesome overdrive straight up.

Had to get my new woodstove into the house today and stage it for final set up. 3.2 cubic foot firebox, gigantic but great looking woodstove with great viewing window and blower included. We won't be using ANY fuel oil this winter and top quality hardwood around here is about 100 dollars or less per FULL cord, delivered, from many different sources. One advantage of living in the sticks - very rural North Central Pennsylvania. I'm going to get four cords to start with.

Anyway this woodstove installation is taking some time but I will get those pictures taken this weekend. Charity will help me. Hopefully in sunlight. I should try using the laptops built in camera and videotape a demo of the guitar and the amp's tones. Anyone try this? I also have a Sony digital camcorder that has firewire connectivity to the computer and records in stereo, don't know how well. Anyone try this that can explain how to take the Sony digital camcorder file and attach it to the fret.net? What are the size limitations, etc.? This would be really useful - just to set the camcorder on the tripod and videotape myself playing and videotape some of my equipment rigs and set ups.Tweaker plus Agile 3100 or Ibanez SZ300 = sonic beauty right out of the tone quest.

I will just take some digital pictures and make it simple - get it done.
 
I have a 3100. It's a great guitar. I was going to change the pickups when it arrived but after playing it discovered there was no need. I really think these are one of the best bang for your buck guitars on the market.
 
Finally

Agile AL3100 flammed cherry burst bound on top and bottom of body, with new Egnater Tweaker in background of some - awesome combination as well as separately. The Tweaker sounds super great with my strat with Fender Custom Shop Texas Specials, super great. Great little amp that can send you straight to dream land.

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Couldn't hold off on the pictures any longer. I will get some outside natural light ones soon. The guitar is set up super great and the Tweaker is not describable in words, it speaks for itself, or should I say it "screams" for itself.
 
It's freakin' beautiful. I've always wanted an Agile LP... Gotta go, I feel some really bad GAS comin' on.

Thanks for the pics!
 
Clean up on isle 7! :drool: :luvit

Dang, what a beauty! This is killin' my GAS for other options.
 
Thanks for the comments.

I really wanted to get some good outside natural light pictures but that Nikon DSLR did a great job with the demure lighting on the bed and blended the colors o the blankets in real well with the natural color of the guitrar and I tried to minimize the effect of the high gloss fnish. I had to delete some really nice shots that were blurry.

Hope you can see the diminutive Egnater Tweaker on the shelf in the background. Super amp with a good guitar. Does not forgive mistakes on clean zones.

I have my tweed special edition Hot Rod Dx back in my amp station and it produces quality tones in most anything I play; rock, blues, country. My new AC15c1 is hidden down below under the laptop shelf. The laptop shelf was actually designed to sit directly on top of the AC15, and it sounds awesome with its "Greenback" and the Bad Monkey going into the RV7 reverb and then into the amp, really awesome. It holds a stealth position right next to my bed and I can just reach down and turn it on without effort and play Charity immediately to sleep. I'm a lucky dude; it not always having been so for those of you that know you know what I mean.

I REALLY helps to have lived some blues to play or even enjoy the blues.
 
Looking good, Duffy! So...the big question: how do you like the Agile compared to other Les-Paul-type guitars you've played? How would you characterize the playability and sound?
 
Guys, you really need to learn to do basic maintenance such as action adjustment and intonation etc. yourselves. It's plain insane to have a tech do such menial tasks. Even correctly tuning a guitar is arguably harder to do than a basic setup.

I live in a climate where the humidity changes from 20-90% and the temperature from under -30 to 90's F and I do some neck adjustments on some of my guitar on practically a weekly basis. Sometimes I've done it in a few minutes before band practice, it's that easy.

Same with intonation - I use pretty much whatever strings are handy, so when I change strings I also adjust intonation. Takes less time than the actual string change. Sometimes in the studio I've adjusted intonation between takes - again something so easy even a blind monkey could do it no problem.

And again the same with bridge height adjustment - just raise or lower it as you like, what's so special about it?

The only thing I'd say is a bit more tricky is lowering the saddle, and that is very often what's also wrong on budget guitars...they always tend to be a little too high, and also sometimes the 1st fret is a bit too far. But even that is nothing but a tap to loosen the nut, file it down carefully some, maybe file some of the fretboard wood if need be, and a few small dabs of glue plus pressure for 30 minutes and it's done. You don't even need much tools beside some 400-800 grit sandpaper.

I guess it can feel a bit intimidating at first, but it's certainly no harder than, say, changing the oil and tires etc. on your car. Nut work might be compared to something like changing the battery, the exhaust or the alternator, but anyhow super simple stuff. LEARN IT the web is full of instructional videos and helpful guides. I was toying with the idea of making a 10-minute video where I put together a cheap guitar and adjust the neck and nut and all, but seems there are so many vids out there there is no need for one more.

Which reminds me, I need to go file the last few frets on my V ever so slightly lower...I gave it an ultra-low action and it hangs slightly on 24th fret when I bend a full bend there now...needs some TLC with a sanding stone and 0000 wool afterwards...
 
3100

Playability and sound:

As far as I can tell the Agile 3100 plays and sounds better than a lot of my other LP type guitars, without doing A/B comparisons, which I intend to do. I'm going to play my Michael Kelly Patriot Custom today, which is a really nice LP type guitar with Rockfield direct mount pickups.

The pickups on the Agile seem to be outstanding sounding. They sound totally great thru an amp pushed hard and even a lower volume.

The playability of the Agile 3100 is superior to many of my other guitars because it has a chunky neck that really fits my hand well. Chords seem to fall naturally into place wih ease and play easily.

I would say that Agile has done an outstanding job of building a great guitar that competes very well against other companies like Epiphone, Michael Kelly, Schecter, etc. One big thing the Agiles have going for them is the close replica of a traditrional style LP. Many of the copies divert from the body style, woods, etc., from the traditional LP design. I like that it is a solid, non-chambered body. If I want a light LP copy I think I would buy an Ibanez ART100 - ART420, which are much lighter but play great ad look good. I can see these chambered LP guitars separating, and cracking and having other design related problems as time moves forward. I don't think the chambered guitars are going to have the long term durability of solid wood LP's when placed under demanding conditions for long periods of time. Some of the problems have probably already shown up but we just haven't heard about them yet.

The Agle does a great job of playability and makes a nice traditional "solid" body LP type guitar. The tone is great and the pickups won't be replaced any time soon. It "feels" like a really good guitar that you would go a long way to find. Don't know why I didn't get one sooner instead of an Epiphone or other copy.

A/B comparisons to follow.
 
I wouldn't worry about chambered ones being any less lasting...the chambers aren't that huge, and the structure is nowhere near the weakness of violins and acoustics / hollowbodies, which also last up to hundreds of years.

Save for suffering a flood or something, I don't think there would be any real difference to longeivity of chambered/solid bodies. If anything, the chambers might help to even out sudden temperature changes etc. as opposed to solid ones and end up lasting even better. I've seen a Les Paul frozen to -30 and taken into use on like over 100F stage right away, and the surface went snap crackle pop because the temp difference inside the body and the top were just too much. _could_ be less likely with a chambered one.
 
Very nice looking guitar there Duff!

deeaa said:
Guys, you really need to learn to do basic maintenance such as action adjustment and intonation etc. yourselves. It's plain insane to have a tech do such menial tasks. Even correctly tuning a guitar is arguably harder to do than a basic setup.

I live in a climate where the humidity changes from 20-90% and the temperature from under -30 to 90's F and I do some neck adjustments on some of my guitar on practically a weekly basis. Sometimes I've done it in a few minutes before band practice, it's that easy.
You live in Wisconsin? OK, it doesn't get to -30 usually--that'd be really unusual, but nevertheless I agree with what you say. Setups aren't that hard. I learned from the Metal Method Setup and Repair DVD. Add to that the fact that I've come across too many techs who really can't set up a Floyd properly and I've determined its just easier to do it myself, to say nothing of much cheaper.
 
Yep! And there are LOTS of instructional vids also on YouTube.
Still, if I ever get past this month-long influenza spree and get my voice back in shape, I'm tempted to make some short but to-the point instruction videos myself. It'd be an interesting project. How to adjust the truss rod, string height and intonation setting would be a nice triple feature and make a 3-4 minute long video perhaps.
 
Sorry I missed this til now. Guitar looks great! I have an Agile P-90 Valkyrie (SG-type) I got new on closeout for $100 (+shipping) that I'm very happy with. I sold my HB-equipped Epi G400 SG after getting the Agile.

I'm set for LP's though since I've got an LP Classic and a Studio Doublecut, plus a couple "alternately-shaped" guitars (Fernandes Ravelle and DeArmond Jetstar) that do the double-HB LP sound as well.
 
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