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I didn't see the play. I had taken my daughter out for a XC ski. I actually thought the game was on tonight, so missed the whole thing.


And you are right! Good call on Wilson!
 
For the two Seahawks' fans...

Your thoughts on faking a punt when up by 30?

I wasn't cool with that.

Wilson is awesome though. Proud to have told you that was coming.

No, I wasn't cool with that either.

In the post-game interview, Carroll said that they had been practicing that play and it came out sort of automatically. But he said also said that he could, and should, have called it off before it happened.

Classless is all I can say about it.

I was really hoping to see New England win last night, but no such luck.
 
though I would rather that the Seahawks face SF after a win, than them coming off a disappointing loss. Should be interesting!

I'm more than a bit worried about next week's game. That SF defense looked scary good last night.

I hope our defense doesn't crap out like they did in Miami and let Kaepernick dismantle them.

I do think it will be a very good game though. I'm expecting a playoff atmosphere in Century Link Field.
 
Try as I might, I probably can't come across as objective (yes, it's taken me a day and a half to get over sunday nights game and form complete sentences)

San Francisco is awesome. Absolutely awesome. But for the fact that they beat my team at home in such a high profile game, I love everything about what's happening there. Between Archie Manning and Papa Harbaugh, somebody should be harvesting sperm. in 25 years we could have another 32 franchises and solve our economic problems.

But, better football minds than mine please pipe in....The San Fran defense allowed 28 points in 15 minutes? Brady threw for 445 and they gave up 34 points? That's got to give you some hope Seahawks fans.

I'm glad they showed they have some stones, and stepped up. I wish Hernandez could've kept his head and caught a few. I wish the secondary would consider playing defense rather than watching niners play catch after their offense bailed them out...

give me a dry field and Gronk in January, and I still like out chances.

Still, they were beaten, they didn't lose. Amazing what's happening with that Niners franchise.
 
San Francisco is awesome. Absolutely awesome. But for the fact that they beat my team at home in such a high profile game, I love everything about what's happening there. Between Archie Manning and Papa Harbaugh, somebody should be harvesting sperm. in 25 years we could have another 32 franchises and solve our economic problems.

...

Still, they were beaten, they didn't lose. Amazing what's happening with that Niners franchise.

One can only imagine what the 49ers would have been like had Harbaugh been successful in his off-season bid to bring Peyton to San Francisco. It will be interesting to see Peyton matchup with SF in the Super Bowl.

Too easy a prediction to make? You know me, I'll pick based on the two best defenses I see going into the playoffs. Right now, it's the Broncos and Niners by a landslide.

No, I wasn't cool with that either.

In the post-game interview, Carroll said that they had been practicing that play and it came out sort of automatically. But he said also said that he could, and should, have called it off before it happened.

I laughed and laughed at the clip from Carroll's presser with that quote. You're the head coach Pete, you can call off any play at any time, not to mention the special teams coach should have known the play was coming and asked Pete "you really want to do this up by 30?" Somewhere, Rick Neuheisel was yelling at his tv that he was right all along about Carroll and running up the score (there's a PAC-10 reference for you SVL).

Oh, speaking of SVL, I thought of you last night when Mike Tirico concluded the MNF game and then Dilfer and Young post game absolutely torching the Jets and their organization. There was no "East Coast Bias" in those comments for sure. A hell of a lot of truth though.
 
Although honestly I don't see a ton of difference between a fake punt when up by 30 and the Bucs trying to blow up victory formation. Both are doing something foolish when the game is already decided. You could even argue that the latter is worse because it is more likely to expose someone to a needless injury.
 
Yah, I'll shut up about that east coast bias stuff. Probably mostly related to left over bad feelings about that 2005 Superbowl where all the coverage was all Pittsburgh, all the time, and then the refs seemed to be that way too.

And about Carroll, and that play: I did not see it, but I don't like to see needless running up the score in any contest. Letting Flynn or a backup back or whomever play hard in a normal play is different. You don't need to kneel down for a whole quarter or anything, but no need for trick stuff. For you Pac 10 reference, I used to not like Carroll at all while he was at USC. It has been a somewhat uncomfortable experience with some mixed feelings accepting him in as the Seahawks head coach. But I have grown to generally like his apparent approach to his relationship with his players, as opposed to the Lombardi style.

But, I don't like to see any team embarrass another team when they are going down. Maybe he really meant to say that it was in the play book for the day, and he got too excited to remember good sense in time to call it off. ;?
 
Probably mostly related to left over bad feelings about that 2005 Superbowl where all the coverage was all Pittsburgh, all the time, and then the refs seemed to be that way too.


But, I don't like to see any team embarrass another team when they are going down. Maybe he really meant to say that it was in the play book for the day, and he got too excited to remember good sense in time to call it off. ;?

Steve, let's please not bring up the '05 SB. That's a very sore spot for me, to say the least.

Carroll's story is, yes he got too excited and forgot to call off the fake punt play. Whether or not that's true, who knows.
 
As a native of Pennsylvania, I rooted ardently for the Steelers in the 2006 SB (game was played in Feb 2006 for 2005 season). It was the last game of Jerome Bettis career, etc.

I will admit to being less than thrilled with how they won the game. It's one thing for a team to go out and outright win the game by domination. It's another thing to win a game because your team makes less mistakes (sucks less to be blunt) than the other team.

But it's a WHOLE DIFFERENT thing when uh.....outside influences (refs).....seem to slant things just enough to tip the scales in one team's favor. And so.........I feel your pain.
 
Although honestly I don't see a ton of difference between a fake punt when up by 30 and the Bucs trying to blow up victory formation. Both are doing something foolish when the game is already decided. You could even argue that the latter is worse because it is more likely to expose someone to a needless injury.

I said it then, and I'll say it again now, the Bucs/Giants game was NOT already decided. The lead was less than a touchdown and while it is extraordinarily improbable, it is nonetheless entirely possible for a team to force a fumble on a kneel-down play.

Since a Schiano-coached college team successfully did precisely that and recovered said fumble and won the game, it shouldn't have been a shocker that he'd consider revisiting that strategy.

Though it is unlikely to work in 99.9% of attempts, it still has a higher probability of changing the outcome of a game than conceding a one-possession game with time on the clock. That strategy never works.


Sorry, but to me what Schiano did was try to win, what Carroll did was try to rub a loss in an opponent's face.

As for the "needless injury" charge, nobody would expose themselves to needless injuries if they played a full 60 minutes and didn't assume the other team would just lay down for them because the clock was "close enough" to being at zero.

By that logic, why not contend a hail mary is the offensive equivalent of actually playing the final play on defense like the game was still undecided? It's extremely rare that it works (unless there are replacement refs) and that many WRs and DBs going up for a ball like that is surely exposing someone to needless injury. That team needs to just accept that they didn't win by the time the clock was close enough to triple-zero so they should just let it go and try again next week.
 
By that logic, why not contend a hail mary is the offensive equivalent of actually playing the final play on defense like the game was still undecided? It's extremely rare that it works (unless there are replacement refs) and that many WRs and DBs going up for a ball like that is surely exposing someone to needless injury. That team needs to just accept that they didn't win by the time the clock was close enough to triple-zero so they should just let it go and try again next week.

That's not even vaguely the same thing. With a Hail Mary, the offense has the ball and is attempting to score. There is as much of a threat of injury as there is on any NFL passing play. With the kneel-down, the quarterback is declaring himself to be down which, according to NFL rules, makes him down. The only way that "play" can work is by hitting someone who is already down. That's bush league. In an era where the NFL is trying to eliminate injuries as much as possible, it is unconscionable that a coach would employ a tactic like that.
 
Until the game is shortened to less than 60 minutes, it's unconscionable to suggest it's appropriate for a team to just accept defeat when the game isn't over.

Also, the purpose of blowing up the kneel down is not to hit the QB who "declares himself down". It's to disrupt the snap prior to the QB having possession of the ball.
 
Well, Megatron is a force of nature. I'm glad he got the receiving record but I'm getting flashbacks to Barry Sanders. Great player on a miserable team.
 
Agreed, except I'm pretty sure that the Lions are more miserable.

At present, for sure. Still, I see opportunity for the Lions to address what they're lacking (ie. a running game) more quickly than the Vikings can address the fact that they have pretty much nothing besides Peterson.
 
Doing great in the 3rd quarter. This will be a big win for this Seahawks.

The Texans showed their ugly side yet again against an inferior team. :thwap

At least the Saints won over the Plowboys.
 
That was very enjoyable to watch. A well played game by the whole team.

And anyone who watched tonight heard al michaels and collinsworth discuss at length the east coast media bias I keep mentioning.

Go Seahawks!
 
I was so worried yesterday, going around the house fretting about my team facing the powerhouse 'Niners. I couldn't get it out of my mind that although they routed some lousy teams, they'll be outmatched on Sunday night. I could just see Aldon Smith mashing down Wilson. The last couple of games on national TV didn't go well for them at all. Maybe this will be another embarassment in front of the whole nation.

Holy smokes, I could barely sit down in my recliner for most of the game. Brother Frankenfretter was up from Oregon to visit and watch the game too.

Lots of whooping, screaming, and cheering in Casa de Cass last night. It was soooo awesome!

I guess the only "bad" part of the game is that is was such a thorough whooping that it may have bored the national audience a bit. A major a$$-kicking for sure.

What will these guys do in the playoffs? I'm getting very optimistic at this point.

Yes Steve, GO SEAHAWKS!:happy
 
I was very impressed with the Seahawks on both sides of the ball. They'll be a dangerous team to face in the playoffs. They've shown they can score in bunches and can keep opponents off the board for long stretches of time. I'l root for them because at least it'll make SVL and NWB happy if they win.

I expected a better performance out of the Bucs against St. Louis, but I think they're spent. Hopefully they can have another strong offseason addressing some of the key needs (particularly cornerbacks) and continue to build on the positive aspects of this season (of which there were many).
 
From the "the more things change, the more they stay the same" department, Lomas Brown admitted letting Scott Mitchell get hit vs. Green Bay in 1994. The thing is that back then the Lions had an excellent offensive line, a very good WR duo in Herman Moore and Brett Perriman, and the ultimate secret weapon in Barry Sanders. If they even had a semi-competent QB, they should have gone places (see: Kramer, Erik).

I will say this for Mitchell--people forget that he did have one excellent year with the Lions in 1995: comp %: 59.3, yards: 4,338 (#2 behind Favre), TD 32 (#3 behind Favre and Moon), INT 12. The Lions were the #2 total offense and #2 scoring team in the NFL, behind only the 49ers. Made the playoffs that year, only to be crushed by the Eagles who, in turn, lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Cowboys.
 
The Bucs ended the season on a positive note, going into Atlanta and dealing the Falcons a 22-17 loss.

To their credit, the Falcons didn't roll over like a team that clinched the #1 seed in their conference. Instead, they played it like a division game, playing their starters the entire game, and playing to win by going for it on 4th and 10 deep in their own territory with less than three minutes to go in a meaningless game.

So 7-9 it is. Up three wins from last year is a big step in the right direction. I was less disappointed with the early/mid season losses that were all within a single score. The later season losses were more thorough beatings.

Still, the Bucs have a lot of positives to build on heading into 2013. This offense became the highest scoring offensive unit in Bucs' history. Much of that was accomplished without their two all-pro offensive guards. Freeman has a lot of learning to do, but he's vastly improved from a disastrous 2011. Martin is every bit the stud NFL RB my dad told me he'd be.

On the other side of the ball, the run defense was nothing short of stellar all season long. The pass rush has improved by leaps and bounds. Much of that is attributable to Gerald McCoy staying healthy enough and playing 16 games this season. Lavonte David was the steal of the draft. The CB position was where the Bucs were exposed all season long, but to their credit, today they did a fine job of minimizing the damage Matt Ryan was able to do through the air.

Overall, I'm pleased with year one of the Schiano/Dominik era and look forward to what they bring to the table in 2013.
 
Glad it's over. Now I'm hearing that the Fords awoke from their coma and aren't happy with the way Schwartz is running the team. This six months after giving him a contract extension. My guess? Nothing will happen. Even if they go crazy and clean house, I have precisely zero confidence that they can choose decent replacements. Ugh.

At least Calvin got the receiving record. Beyond that, this season has been a profound waste of my time.
 
The Vikings - Packers game was the best to watch today. Peterson was awesome yet put the team's win ahead of his record attempt (9 yards short). He still managed to be the 7th to rush over 2000 yards in the regular season.

The Texans continued their downward spiral as they appeared to have no heart or desire. So much talent wasted puts coach Gary Kubiak in question. His play calling brings the word "flaccid" to mind. They won't go far in the playoffs unless they put some rhymes-with-Niagra in the gatoraid.
 
The Seahawks hung on and won today, despite a very strong Rams pass rush. Not a dominant win as in the past weeks, but a win nonetheless. I think it was good the Seahawks were tested and had to work today, before starting into the playoffs.
 
Hmm, Redskins vs. Seahawks. What to you guys think? Other than R_of_G (and me) getting tired of it being billed as RG3 vs. Wilson . . .

Interesting matchups. I would feel more comfortable if the Seahawks were playing at home, but they have improved on the road of late, beating the Bears at home. I am willing to be hopeful . . . but we will have to see what team shows up. I hope the coaching is bold and confident rather than conservative.
 
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