Need some help for new amp

[ZoSo65]

Let me start by saying hello to everyone as this is my first post here, nice forums BTW

I just built a guitar and I'm on the hunt for a new amp, and these are the 3 I have norrowed it down to.

Vox-AD100VT
Line 6-Flextone III Plus
Fender-Deluxe 900 DSP

I'm almost tempted to get the AD60VTX, but the price jump gets me a little. I know it would be worth it though.

I'll basically be using it for practice sessions and small gigs.

I'm looking for any kind of info on them, you know pros, cons, if anyone owns one, your experiences, etc.

Thanks
ZoSo65

 

[Tim]

HI ZoSo65 - and welcome to our growing family. All I know is that the best place to learn about the AD110VT is by going to the Patchtronics website. There is tone of knowledge there. Everything that can be asked, has been asked there. And a few topics posted here also.

Here is the link to Patchtronics: http://www.patchtronix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=index

 

[ZoSo65]

Thanks for the info Tim, Patchtronix is a good site.

 

[Robert]

Welcome, ZoSo! Post a introduction in the Fret Player's section!

Hmm, haven't tried the Fender and Line 6 models you mention, but any Line 6 amp I've tried haven't sounded as good as the Vox AD series amps. The AD60VTX is really sweet and a better gigging amp than the AD100VT, since it lets you store so much more settings, etc.

I'm not being of much help here... am I. Anyway, go try some of those amps out if you can. You might want to look at what the speaker configurations are in each amp. I know that my AD50VT would sound better with a better speaker.

 

[ZoSo65]

Thanks for the "Welcome" Robert
I've been seeing that about the Line 6 amps the more I look into the three I'm lookin at,,hehe
Every bit of info helps, thanks.


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[ZoSo65]

C'mon guys give me some more input here, please

 

[Tone2TheBone]

Of the 3 amps you've mentioned tell us which one YOU REALLY want.....

 

[ZoSo65]

Well, Vox has moved to the top of my list.
Fender = 2
Line 6 = 3, so basically out of the picture,,LOL

The VTX is kind'of there too, but if I was to spend that kind of money, I would just get a Mesa/Boogie, but I like the idea of a modeling amp.

I hate trying to make these kind of decisions

 

[Tone2TheBone]

ZoSo - they're the best kind of decisions to make. What should I buy. Poor you!

If you want modeling with the added versatility of gigging then the Vox will be good. If Nelski was here he'd probably suggest looking at the Cyber Twins or something. Maybe he'll say something about them. Anyway I've got the AD30VT (liked the small size for easy transport). The models are good starting points and will suit your moods for different tones thats for sure. I don't know anyone that has the VTX models so I haven't heard from anyone if they REALLY change patches and models all the time or not. I would think that most casual people would still have the tendency to tweak on the knobs to make changes than to stomp on the Vox box for amp switches. Weigh that into your consideration. Overall I have been very happy with my Vox.

 

[duhvoodooman]

I just built a guitar and I'm on the hunt for a new amp, and these are the 3 I have norrowed it down to.

Vox-AD100VT
Line 6-Flextone III Plus
Fender-Deluxe 900 DSP

I'm almost tempted to get the AD60VTX, but the price jump gets me a little. I know it would be worth it though.

Everything I've read says that, when it comes to DSP-based modeling amps, the VOX technology is the best by far. I certainly am very pleased with my AD30VT. And, yeah, the 60VTX is certainly worth the extra money, if you can swing it, or you could always look for a used one on eBay. One went for about $400 a few days ago.

Very cool axe, BTW! And welcome to the forum!

 

[ZoSo65]

Thanks guys!
S**t, now I'm thinking of going for broke and getting the AD120VTX! ,,,nah

Even though I've read about the resonance problems, but I think a blow hole would fix the problem. C'mon, if you think about it,,,any high end audio speakers have had "blow holes", now even the lower end systems are incorporating it. That's my thought though.

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[ZoSo65]

Well,,,,I got it down to the AD60VTX and the AD120VT.

Any pros and cons of 1 speaker vs 2?

 

[ZoSo65]

Uh oh
Look at this bad *** puppy!!!
Hughs & Kettner SWITCHBLADE

 

[Spudman]

I think the Vox is a good way to go just from listening to all the guys on the forum, their posts and sounds. However, I have kept every tube amp that I have ever owned and none of the solid state amps. Tubes become your voice and with a modeling amp I think it's too tempting to keep changing the amp and not gain your own identity. example: Carlos Santana. same amp for twenty five years or more. Very identifiable voice.
I'm not dissing any amps just stating my thoughts.

 

[ZoSo65]

I think I'm gonna go for the AD100VT, see how everything works out with it and down the road upgrade the speakers to a set of Celestion G12 Century Vintage(pretty much the same thing in the VTX).
I've read quite a few posts that the upgrade makes a very good improvement.

I'll also experiment with closing the back and blow holes(in front)

I seen one guy even go as far as putting different valves in, but I think that would have an effect on the amp models. What I understand is, the models where calibrated to the factory valves.

Thanks for all the input guys, I do appreciate it

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[duhvoodooman]

I seen one guy even go as far as putting different valves in, but I think that would have an effect on the amp models. What I understand is, the models where calibrated to the factory valves.

Hmmm, you may be right. I'm just a beginner in these matters, but I was under the impression that the 12AX7 tube in the ADxxVT amps drove the power amp side and should have little or no effect on the character of the models, which are controlled by the SS preamp.

 

[tot_Ou_tard]

Uh oh
Look at this bad *** puppy!!!
Hughs & Kettner SWITCHBLADE

Yeah I saw that site too. Has anyone played one?

 

[tot_Ou_tard]

I think the Vox is a good way to go just from listening to all the guys on the forum, their posts and sounds. However, I have kept every tube amp that I have ever owned and none of the solid state amps. Tubes become your voice and with a modeling amp I think it's too tempting to keep changing the amp and not gain your own identity. example: Carlos Santana. same amp for twenty five years or more. Very identifiable voice.
I'm not dissing any amps just stating my thoughts.

The VOX is great for a beginner like me with a huge and eclectic range of musical interests. When I find my voice and have a clear sense of the particular tone that I am going for, then I'll be hot for a particular amph.

Of course that doesn't stop me from lusting....

 

[marnold]

Tubes become your voice and with a modeling amp I think it's too tempting to keep changing the amp and not gain your own identity. example: Carlos Santana. same amp for twenty five years or more. Very identifiable voice.

Except that it is extremely rare for guitarists to say with the exact same rig their entire careers. Check George Lynch's website sometime. He changed amps from album to album and tour to tour. EVH, Vai, Satriani, and countless others are all the same way.

When you are starting out, you really have no idea what you like. I've messed with just about every amp type on the Vox, but lately have settled into the UK70 for metal/rock tones, the Tweed 4x10 for blues, and the Boutique CL for clean tones. BUT, it took me a year and a half (and the addition of an overdrive pedal) to come to these conclusions.

Note that I reserve the right to change my mind at any time. In the beginning I raved about the NuMetal amp, but now I don't use it as much.

 

[ZoSo65]

Hmmm, you may be right. I'm just a beginner in these matters, but I was under the impression that the 12AX7 tube in the ADxxVT amps drove the power amp side and should have little or no effect on the character of the models, which are controlled by the SS preamp.

That could be true too, DVD, I'll look into it more.
I've read so much in the last couple days, my mind is swimming


EDIT: Dam, I just checked out the Fender Cyber Twin SE, and it looks sweeeet! Cost ya a nice chunk of change though.

 

[tot_Ou_tard]

Who has power here? Can't we change the name of this subforum to Amphs?

-Montana

 

[ZoSo65]

Here I go again,,
Now I'm thinking of going all tube and using a Pod!
Any opinions on these amps?

Peavy ValveKing 212 Combo
Peavy Triple XXX Super 40EFX
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 1x12


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[WelcomeBack]

Hey ZoSo,

First...I'm very much a beginner. And in the same boat...I have the AD30VT and lust for an all tube....maybe I'd practice more instead of fiddling with the amp models.

All I've read on the Peavy Valveking is bad
Have some friends with the Fender Blues Jr. and all good comments.

Anyone for the Epiphone Valve Std?
Paul

 

[Spudman]

My favorites are Peavey Classic 30 and Hot Rod Deluxe.

The Hot Rod Deluxe has a bit more swat than the Peavey Classic 30 and can get a bit brighter sounding. It stays cleaner louder and can really wail if you get it loud.
The 30's reverb sounds better but it doesn't have quite the clean headroom. Still plenty loud especially with another cabinet.
The 30 is easier to carry. The dirty channel on the 30 sounds better.
A Crate Vintage Club 30, 50, or 60 is also another fine option.

Something for ya to think about.

 

[ZoSo65]

Thanks for the input guys, here's what I got it down to, in no particular order:

Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 1x12 w/Pod
Peavy Delta Blues w/Pod -- DVM, chime in here please
Vox AD60VTX

Yeah, Vox is back, because I will need a quiet amp for when I practice in the house.

 

[ZoSo65]

C'mon guys,,I'm gettin ready to pull the trigger here

 

[warren0728]

you could get one of the tube amps and then something like a hot plate to play at lower volumes. I really like tube amps....i have a vox ad30vt and an epi valve, jr. tube amp i find i plug into the epi more than the vox.

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[Tone2TheBone]

Just get a Marshall. A tube Marshall........................

 

[ZoSo65]

you could get one of the tube amps and then something like a hot plate to play at lower volumes...

hmm looks interesting, that's something like Eddie Van Halen used, of course he made his own though.

The Fender CyberTwin SE looks interesting too now.

 

[warren0728]

heres a link to a discussion on the delta blues...seems to be well liked (i have not played through one.

http://thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=141009

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