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marnold said:
Except that it is extremely rare for guitarists to say with the exact same rig their entire careers. Check George Lynch's website sometime. He changed amps from album to album and tour to tour. EVH, Vai, Satriani, and countless others are all the same way.
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*ahem* Anyone ever heard of endorsement deals? Yeah, these marquee players did change gear freqently. But do some more research, and find out what kind gear helped them to forge their identifiable sound. In most cases, its not what they're playing now. Or even what they go into the studio with.

I was watching Aerosmith's latest concert DVD "You Gotta Move", and part of the video was shot in Joe Perry's basement studio aka "The Boneyard". Nuthin' but vintage tube amps as far as the eye could see. Fender, Vox, Marshall, Supro, Mesa Boogie, etc. When the heavy dudes want to get heavy, there's always a tube amp within close reach.

I'd probably steer clear of using any Line 6 POD unit through a tube amp, as the circuitry of the amp has a tendency to color the tones created by the POD (*see my Tech 21 thread under the amps section of the forum). Tried it, and found that to be the case. Your results may vary, but that's been my experience.

I was a solid-state player for many years before I bought my first tube amp. And now that I have one (actually I have two), I will never be without one. That's just me, though, and maybe it's just "old school" that many of us have that same opinion, and loyalty, to tube amps. While its tough to put a finger on that "thing" all-tube powered amps have tone-wise vs. any other type of rig, its safe to say that whatever it is, it's totally groovin'. That being said, Zoso, get down to your local shop, and play a few. Let your ears be the judge, not ours.
 
That's a problem for me, the local shop is about 2 to 2 1/2 hours away, and I just can't get up and go anytime I feel. Kind of "between a rock and a hard place" here :confused:

What I want to do is have 2 possibilities and order one, and if I don't like it, swap it out.

Now I'm looking at the Peavey Triple XXX Super 40 & the Delta Blues 210 2x10. :rolleyes:
 
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Zoso
Are you in a hurry? If not take your time and get the right amph for you. Personally, the Delta 1x15 sounds better to my ears than the 2x10 and it is very similar to the Classic 30. Neither of which are really "metal" amphs. They get crunchy and tone full as all get out though.

Return shipping will still cost you $ if you order and don't like. I suggest that you be patient and purposely go shopping in a big store for what you want. Make a list of amphs that you are considering - find the store that has most of the ones on the list by calling ahead - then make a special day of it. Be patient and get the right one. That is going to come by playing one.

Still, if you ask me and Nelskie and (is it Voodoo that just got the Delta?) we would steer you that direction with no second thoughts.
 
Spudman said:
Be patient and get the right one. That is going to come by playing one.
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That's good advice, Spud. BTW - Voodooman has posted some clips of his Peavey Delta amp - Zoso, you should check them out.
 
Spudman said:
Zoso
Are you in a hurry? If not take your time and get the right amph for you. Personally, the Delta 1x15 sounds better to my ears than the 2x10 and it is very similar to the Classic 30. Neither of which are really "metal" amphs. They get crunchy and tone full as all get out though.

Return shipping will still cost you $ if you order and don't like. I suggest that you be patient and purposely go shopping in a big store for what you want. Make a list of amphs that you are considering - find the store that has most of the ones on the list by calling ahead - then make a special day of it. Be patient and get the right one. That is going to come by playing one.

Still, if you ask me and Nelskie and (is it Voodoo that just got the Delta?) we would steer you that direction with no second thoughts.
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I agree. If you're in a real rush (like you don't have ANY amp right now), get something like a little 15 watt Squier to tide you over. Then, take your time, and YOUR amp will come to you, believe me. It has now happened to me not just once, but THREE TIMES!

The first was my '94 Peavey Classic 50/410 (yes, I'll endorse its little brother, the Delta Blues as well!). I was playing a 50 watt Kittyhawk at the time, a sweet but tempermental amp. Marshall's didn't do it for me (they don't have that "down home" blues tone I like), and I just couldn't find a Fender that quite fit. One day my friend Dave (Albert Collins' former road manager, and currently Buddy Guy's sound man) Katzman recommended the Classic 50. I checked it out, liked what I heard, laid my money down, and haven't looked back since, other than to re-tube it with JJ's from Bob at Eurotubes dot com.

Recently, as I was getting ready to start gigging with my bass, I knew that I would need something with more oomph than my little 35 watt Ibanez could muster. I began checking out the local ads, and prowling music and pawn shops. At one point, I answered an ad, halfheartedly, on Craigslist, for a Crate head and cab. I really wanted either an SWR, Ampeg, or Peavey. Anyway, I never got a reply, and forgot about it. I was just about to try making a deal on a used Workingman's 12, when I got a reply. The Crate's owner had been out of town and out of touch (on tour). Anyway, he asked if I was still interested. About the same time, an ad came out on Craig's for a similar amp, at $250 more than this guy was asking. I figured, oh, what the... Fender Frankenbass and I made the hour long trip down into the city the next Saturday. The amp sounded much better than I had imagined it would, $225 slid from my palm to the seller's, and I had me a new 220 watt bass half stack!

A couple of weeks ago, as I was GAS'ing about trading off my Leo era G&L guitar for a similar bass, my friend came across an old Peavey combo amp in a pawn shop near where he works. He recommended that I should check it out. I did, and it sounded like it would make a nice practice/backup amp. It's a 1976 Peavey TNT 100! Yeah, 100 watts of vintage power baby! This thing gets LOUD!!!

Yeah, take your time. When its right, your amp will call out to you. It may call from a local guitar shop, it may call from your neighbor's basement, or it may call from a source like Craigslist or eBay, but it will call. In the meantime, seek out other guitarists and check out their gear. Who knows, maybe your amp is sitting in the bedroom of a neighboring guitarist who is just dieing to get his hands on (insert any amp name here), and needs to sell your amp to do it!
 
Robert said:
Yes, it's like getting a wife - take your time and get the right one.
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Why limit yourself to one--ampolygamy isn't a bad thing. :D
 
I suppose you could always have another amp on the side, if your conscience allows it!

I guess your main amp would call that one a cheap little tr-amp. :D
 
Bad thing for Mormon musicians is that they have to play only in the temple for the first year before they can take the amp out to a gig.
 
duhvoodooman said:
I suppose you could always have another amp on the side, if your conscience allows it!

I guess your main amp would call that one a cheap little tr-amp. :D
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LOL,,yeah, you could say that,,,,good one DVM!

As to am I in a hurry,,,well sorta yeah,,,I have no amp here,,, and I'm dyin' for a real amp.

Oh yeah, went to our "local" store here, they had nine amps, and only one was a tube, it was a Peavey Valve King, all the others where little practice amps.
 
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Well, I finally made up my mind on 2,,,I think *pulling hair out*

It's either going to be the Delta Blues(not sure on which speaker config-1x15 or 2x10) or the ValveKing 212.

I've been reading a lot from VK owners being very happy with it. It also seems very versatile, especially for "external cabbing" (we got a couple over in the jam room I can mess with :p )
100 watts (rms) into 16, 8, or 4 ohms (switchable)
Four 6L6GC and three 12AX7 tubes

The DeltaBlues owners, well we know what they think :cool:
They're all happy with it! (right DVM)
30 watts into 16 or 8 ohms
Three 12AX7 and four EL84 tubes.
 
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Spudman said:
Tone
I live in the heart of MoMo country and in order to have any MoMo girl you have to be converted first. New tubes, new caps, no independent volume control and you will always be run via midi from far away. Is that what you want?
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Yes please, how do I join? Some kind of ritual ? Does it come with the free "I am a Mormon!" t-shirt which we all know and love ?
 
Ok guys,,,think I'm gonna pull the trigger tonight :eek:

Peavey ValveKing 212
PODxt Live - got a deal on this ;)
BOSS TU-15 Tuner
DL-225 Coffin Case - need something to put "Black Betty" in :cool:
 
ZoSo65 said:
Ok guys,,,think I'm gonna pull the trigger tonight :eek:

Peavey ValveKing 212
PODxt Live - got a deal on this ;)
BOSS TU-15 Tuner
DL-225 Coffin Case - need something to put "Black Betty" in :cool:
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The last time you pulled the trigger, I got shot in the shin!

Congrats, ZoSo!
 
I'll also experiment with closing the back and blow holes(in front)
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ZoSo don't go putting Blow holes into a guitar amp. In hi-fi they tuned Ports that are tuned to a set frequency depending the size of cabinet but guitar amps don't require this just experiment with open or closed back( these need to be airtight as it's the pressure created that makes the difference)
 
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